I heard that their cracking down, fining manufacturers and putting an official ban on tuner companies manufacturing DPF delete tuners.

Has anyone heard this?

 

Wouldn't surprise me. This will do 2 things - make manufactures smarten up and it will drive the price of the used diesels way up - which is a good thing.

 

FALSE!!!
These things are labeled just the same as offroad cat delete pipes for gassers. They have had programmers for years to delete the O2 sensors and cats on gassers for years. The only thing is, if you get caught on the road without your dpf then you're busted pretty bad. But as long as your state doesn't inspect (my state doesn't ) then you're good. The epa can't do anything if the products are labeled for offroad use.

 

I wouldn't be so sure. The smog police are coming in full force and it is only a matter of time.

By 2010 California, Oregon, Washington and British Columbia will make it manditory for ALL OTR to have DPF installed. That said, as long as the power and economy remains I don't care.

 

Yeah the EPA is a lot more powerful then you think....unless you're a ship or factory.

Anyway, get used to them getting what they want.

I was reading in I believe Diesel World about the new CA regs and how they are retrofitting older rigs. The text read something to the effect of "now you can update your truck with these new exhaust filters so you don't have to buy a new truck.

Yeah....it is that scary.

 

are you kidding me. there putting emmisions on older trucks. this is BS. they cant put fines on to stuff that is meant for off road use. everyone knows that people drive on to road with stuff but some people do drag race

 

I wouldn't think twice about buying one, besides what are the companies doing, selling them right? How are they supposed to fine them for not breaking the law. They're not applying the technology, just selling it. Like I said though, if they pull this crap, they'll have to hunt down every mustang, camaro, and any other fast performance car with an offroad pipe and fine them.

 

Older heavy duty trucks. I can't remember what classes. I know Class 8 for sure. We drive Class 1-3.

I think this is the point that the EPA is trying to make, if this is true. People sign waivers stating that they are buying the product for offroad use yet run it on the road anyway. The old adage states the easiest way to kill a snake is to cut off its head.

 

The off road thing wont work to much longer since all the Emission regs are steping into farm and construction eqiupment. One of the dealers for DPF deletes said they are race only not offroad. Race only lets them fly because there is no EPA regs on drag and race vehicles.

 

Looks like the "off road" thing is not working anymore. Found this on the EPA' s website.



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"Casper’s sold over 44,000 O2 Sims before further sales of these illegal “defeat devices” were halted as a result of EPA’s investigation and follow-up enforcement action. These devices were advertised for “off road use only” or “non-road use only.” However, the O2 Sims were designed and marketed to be used in regular production vehicles (“on road” or “on highway” vehicles), which is illegal under the Clean Air Act. In addition, while there are different control standards for “off road” vehicles (e.g., construction equipment) because of differences in the types of engines and applications, there is no general “off road” use exemption from the pollution control requirements of the Clean Air Act."

Casper's Electronics, Inc. | Civil Enforcement | Compliance and Enforcement | US EPA