OK I have read every thing on this thread! Very vague in some posts. My question is do any of you have problems with climate changes? Reason Why I asked is that a few people that I know in Utah have used the LPG, and or CNG and have nothing but problems. They say that the climate in Utah is so extreme in temperature changes that it does not work correctly? I do no know how or why, it is just what I have heard. One of my main sources is G&R Diesel Repair in Draper Utah. I do know for a fact that in the Banks Sidewinder Diesel they use LPG with Nos and diesel. The way banks has theirs set up is that the Diesel is the Spark! that starts the burn LPG, Thats why they can claim low smoke! LPG and CNG are SPARK IGNITION Fuels. Not Compresion ignition like diesel. The use of terms like octane in a Cetaine powerplant only creates some confusion (Most of us know what is being said, so no offences). as far as it being a marketing ploy? I do not see a whole lot of commercials about it! I live in California CNG and LPG does well in the valley areas. I am not sure about other climates tho. Still a young Idea being used. More intensive study is required

up here in Wisconsin when its like 20 below zero somtimes we have problems running lpg because the coolent doesent get warm enough to evaporate the lp, so in the winter we doent even bother turning it on, we just used an lp setup from a forklift

If your regulator runs oil (its possible with right diaphram) or engine antifreeze it should stil be in vapor state - remember propane BOILS at minus 44degrees F! So just wait until truck is warmed up before turning on.

You missed factoring in the cost of the system and the fact it would take several years, if ever, to recoup the cost on fuel price per BTU alone.

That is false information.

No need. It has no benefit and it doesn't work at all on IDI engines (detonation).

You are right - propane is for people who have the blessing of a turbocharger - it does not help idi very much at all. But for the rest of us - WOW!

Yes the 20lb. propane tank is just a grill tank. I think we all pretty much have one or two extra's laying around, I use propane to cut with cause it's cheaper than acetalene and it burns a little hotter too I think. Why not just use regular fuel line? Good quality line is re-enforced and is a little more flexible than the welding gas line. The welding line will start cracking after a while when it's exposed to the weather too. Get the 1/4" barbed fittings and clamp them in the hose to be safe and go from there. I think it's a great idea, after a little more reading on the subject I'll probably give it a try !! All I need to buy is a rocker switch and the solenoid valve. THANKS :tu:

Uh, please tell me your not thinking of putting acetylene into your engine.

FYI, Acetylene produces the hottest flame known to man.

Just remember the propane comes out of the bottle at between 80 and 160 lbs pressure.

No Doc, I'm not That dumb !! (not yet anyway) I had been up all night, I think somehow my point was that I already had the propane gages. I'm not sure. :argh:

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You have me curious now Doc, do you know the burn temp of the two gas

Also, I sent "Propane Kits" a message and ask him if he'd give us a discount. I'll let everyone know as soon as he answers me. It says he has 10 more available, how many would want one from him?

I hope I didn't break any rules by asking him for the discount on our behalf as a whole. Did I?

The fellow on Ebay is willing to deal, but would like to know how many people would be interested in the valve. Anyone interested in the valve for less than 36 dollars? He didn't say how much less just less, I'll contact him Sunday.