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Is it really only a new Ford 6.7?

I have read as many websites as I could, is the new Ford just a Ford? I know they are breaking ties with Navistar, but are they in kahoots with anybody else on this one? It sure is a strange looking critter with most of the engine being a turbocharger that sits in the V of the engine. What a strange design with the exhaust ports on the inside of the engine. Aluminum heads and some kind of composite block? Strange stuff. Anybody know any more about it? My neighbor wants to be the first one on our block to get one, but I don't know enough about them.:humm:

it's very efficient, yes ford only (I still think taking ques from a GM design) but the next logical step in diesels

GM designed a 4.8l? duramax for the 1500's that made almost the same power as the 6.6l a few years ago with that design but I believe it got scrapped before production :(

test drove one for 2hrs and its fast fast fast quiet and no diesel smell ....rides like a town car,,,,,

The ford dealer near me has one sitting on the lot.I thought about checking it out.

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Originally Posted by Budgreen (Post 538837)

Actually, industrial based v-style diesels have had the "reversed" airflow design for some time...so don't give GM all the credit... I'm looking out the window of my data van and staring at a whole pad worth of Cummins and CAT v-16 diesels with turbos in the valley pan and outboard intakes, so it's not a "new" concept by any means. Some old Indy racing motors were reversed airflow too...and quite honestly, it makes sense on turbo applications.

As for the 6.7 "funny lookin critter"... Yes, it's a Ford in-house motor. The block is CGI (compacted graphite iron) and is starting to become the norm for heavy duty blocks for its decreased weight and increased strength compared to cast iron. I believe the 4.5 Duramax concept was also CGI block with aluminum heads...so, look for that to soon become the norm for on-highway diesel engines, imho.

The turbo itself on the 6.7 is a modern marval. It consists of a split flow exhaust housing (two exhaust inlets on opposite sides of the impeller converging to one common outlet), and a double sided intake impeller that has two seperate intake ports coming together at a common discharge...kind of like taking two "normal" compressor housings and putting them back to back.

The numbers themselves for the platform look impressive and I'm also very anxious to get behind the wheel of one.:choochoo: However...I'm not anxious to see how the urea injection system and all the headachs to go with it are going to be...:nope:

Anyway, I'm no engineer for Ford (they never replied to my resume :ouch:) so don't quote me on any of this... But it looks like the makings of a pretty great diesel platform :tu:

Thank you for all of the detailed info. I know some of the larger Diesels have reversed flow, such as the V12 Cummins, I just have never seen it on a Ford before. It is logical, but I do worry about the two steel pipes, one coming from each head into the turbocharger. It seems like those things are going to get incredibly hot, probably around 1300* on a good pull, maybe? You wouldn't want to need to re-install those babies after 100k miles of temps like that. I can see it now. Twang, there...now they are sprung! :bat:

Peugot is helping with design from what I knew, but it's being called an in house Ford motor. This is not their first diesel by any means, if you look in europe there are a ton of "Ford" diesel cars running around...

Also there are already deletes for the urea injection and DPF/DOC and EGR setups on these trucks out there already. Check out youtube.

I drove one the other day and I must say they are quite impressive. No turbo lag like the older powerstrokes. The one big no-no is the fact the ZF6 is no longer available in the SD. Slushboxes only.....that sucks IMO.

Yes, auto's only, though you can lock out gears on this like you can with the allisons, which is nice (I know it still doesn't make up for no manual). They are dynoing a touch under 400 rwhp stock... Imagine 400 rwhp and a warranty to boot!