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tmcclure 03-25-2011 08:38 PM

Very hard, loping idle and white smoke
 
so i got home from work the other day and noticed a slight knock that wasnt normal, didnt think much about it. i havnt had any codes or anything. i got in the other day and cranked the truck up and it was a very very hard loping idle and the motor would...twist i guess. also noticed white a little white smoke constently coming from the exhaust. HELP!!!:argh:

95powersmoker 03-28-2011 11:26 PM

Have you checked your fluids, Are you gaining any? Are you losing any?

How many miles on the truck?

What did the smoke smell like? Fuel...Coolant?

Did the idle straighten out after a the romping happened?

tmcclure 03-29-2011 10:33 AM

fluids are fine i havnt been running it so i dont know if it is gaining any, 142,000 miles on the truck. smoke smells like fuel, and no the idle did not straighten out

CSIPSD 03-29-2011 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by tmcclure (Post 731136)
fluids are fine i havnt been running it so i dont know if it is gaining any, 142,000 miles on the truck. smoke smells like fuel, and no the idle did not straighten out

Injector O rings more then likely. DO NOT drive it... If you can I would get someone to do a cylinder contribution test on it, this may or may not lead you to a specific cylinder, but at this point you may as well replace all the O-rings.

Make sure to get genuine Alliant O-rings...

Riff Raff (one of our sponsors) has a great deal on injector O-rings, hit him up.

I always carry a spare set with me as well.

Bigred7.3 03-29-2011 04:43 PM

i dont have the looping idol problem but i do have constant white smoke from the exhaust, the injectors are new the cps is new and the icp sensor is new, what is causing this problem, the truck runs the same weather the icp sensor is pluged in or not.

CSIPSD 03-29-2011 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Bigred7.3 (Post 731299)
i dont have the looping idol problem but i do have constant white smoke from the exhaust, the injectors are new the cps is new and the icp sensor is new, what is causing this problem, the truck runs the same weather the icp sensor is pluged in or not.

Different issue in your case... I would bet your turbo seals are shot and its leaking oil into the exhaust... Does the smoke smell like fuel, oil or coolant?

Bigred7.3 03-29-2011 05:25 PM

it smells like oil, and yes the seals in the trubo are shot, but it smokes bad when the truck sits for more then an hour, but it lightens up after the truck warsms up

CSIPSD 03-29-2011 05:28 PM

Yup... Turbo...

Time for a rebuild.

My wifes 38r does the same thing, if you leave it at idle for 30 minutes or so and then leave, big smoke until the oil burns out.

Need to build a turbo mount for hers and throw an H2e in.:w2:

Bigred7.3 03-29-2011 09:06 PM

i was thinking the turbo seals could b a cause for the smoke but wasnt sure between that or the icp sensor being the cause, i was thinking bout putting a different compressor wheel on my turbo when i get it rebuild is that a good idea or not

CSIPSD 03-29-2011 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by Bigred7.3 (Post 731485)
i was thinking the turbo seals could b a cause for the smoke but wasnt sure between that or the icp sensor being the cause, i was thinking bout putting a different compressor wheel on my turbo when i get it rebuild is that a good idea or not

Its a bandaid for surge... If you have surge issues then maybe.

What are your plans for the truck? Dont dump money into the stock turbo if your going to do injectors at some point anyway.

Bigred7.3 03-29-2011 11:33 PM

im not sure what my plans for the truck yet as of power, i kind of screwed myself by spending the money on stock injectors, id like to upgrade the turbo or possibly do a compound setup, what is a h2e turbo? i will eventually do injectors im just not sure which ones to get.

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alright ive done some research on the h2e turbo and the gtp38r turbo, the h2e is 2,400 ant the gtp38r is only 1,500 the h2e only flows 7% more then the gtp38r so y is it almost a grand more?

95powersmoker 03-29-2011 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by Bigred7.3 (Post 731503)
alright ive done some research on the h2e turbo and the gtp38r turbo, the h2e is 2,400 ant the gtp38r is only 1,500 the h2e only flows 7% more then the gtp38r so y is it almost a grand more?

For the H2E, you are buying turbo and pedistal... For the 38r, you are just buying the turbo.

Bigred7.3 03-31-2011 10:51 PM

does the pedistal make a difference? or the h2e jus mounts different?

95powersmoker 03-31-2011 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by Bigred7.3 (Post 732850)
does the pedistal make a difference? or the h2e jus mounts different?

Completely different mount... You can't run an H2E on your stock pedistal..

Bigred7.3 03-31-2011 11:40 PM

ok well now which is better the h2e or the gtp38r?

95powersmoker 03-31-2011 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by Bigred7.3 (Post 732881)
ok well now which is better the h2e or the gtp38r?

IMO, the H2E is a better turbo... But lets try to keep this thread on track...


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