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85_305 03-28-2011 06:53 PM

My heat is not hot
 
Hello all! So my Volkswagen diesel pumps out 115* heat from the vents, verified by many with thermometers. So perhaps I'm a bit spoiled by the heat output of my VW... but the heat on my OBS I can seriously have full blast and even after the truck is up to temp (somewhere between the O and R in "NORMAL") I wont even be considered "hot" after a road trip.

I'm thinking the radiator and heater core may need a good flushing, but is there something else that frequents these trucks?

prison 03-28-2011 07:06 PM

what thermostat does it have in it? i ask this knowing you have no idea. its made for a 203

85_305 03-28-2011 07:11 PM

Not a clue... how can I tell?

prison 03-28-2011 07:15 PM

got me. i guess they might say on them. i'd have to go look at mine but the 203's are supposed to help a lot so i'm guessing you don't have a 203 BUT it wouldn't hurt to do some maintenance on the truck of course

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oh and thermostat could be stuck open

Red_Rattler 03-28-2011 07:20 PM

plugged core, low on fluid?

85_305 03-28-2011 07:20 PM

Why would the truck get up to temp then if the t stat was stuck open?

Fluid level is fine. I'm def wondering if it's a plugged core though..

Red_Rattler 03-28-2011 07:35 PM

Thats my guess, you can flush it out with your garden hose

prison 03-28-2011 07:39 PM

i forgot about that detail. and is it dead in the middle? a little high? a little low?

85_305 03-28-2011 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Red_Rattler (Post 730782)
Thats my guess, you can flush it out with your garden hose

Ya thats what I was figuring to do. Too bad it's 15 damn degrees here lately. Ugg.


Originally Posted by prison (Post 730785)
i forgot about that detail. and is it dead in the middle? a little high? a little low?

No it's def not dead in the middle... it's on the OR portion of NORMAL, if you can picture that?

CSIPSD 03-28-2011 09:00 PM

I would guess you have a T-stat issue, try that first... Do you add the Anti corrosion additive to your truck ever?

Go down to Ford and get the FACTORY 195* stat and install it, do not buy into the hype for the 203* stat...

Might look at flushing the system as well, and adding a coolant filter. You would be surprised how much crap a coolant filter will pick up!

85_305 03-28-2011 09:15 PM

No... I'm thinking I might have to buy some of this anti-corrosive stuff though.

I have a feeling that once I do the flush there will be a lot of floating shit in there, though. So just pick up an OEM Ford 195* tstat? Should my temp needle be straight up and down?

CSIPSD 03-28-2011 09:17 PM

The gauge on the dash means SQUAT... Get a gauge in there or a scanner and see what the real temp is.

I cant for the life of me remember what the additive is right now...

FW16... Your local Ford shop can get it for you, as well as the test strips.

I run a filter with the additive in it already.

85_305 03-28-2011 09:31 PM

Thanks for the input... can a basic reader at autozone read the temp? Or probably not...

Red_Rattler 03-28-2011 09:57 PM

not that i know of, they are just a reader not a diagnostic tool

85_305 03-29-2011 02:13 AM

So who would have a diagnostic tool? Besides the super-expensive local diesel shop?

Red_Rattler 03-29-2011 07:54 AM

We have one at the shop come on over :D but any repair shop should be able to tell u the real temp in about 5 mins with their reader

85_305 03-29-2011 08:59 AM

This is good thinking... then I can kill two birds with one stone; get mah truck fixed, plus meet the famous Rattler:w2:

twinboys 03-29-2011 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by 85_305 (Post 730749)
Hello all! So my Volkswagen diesel pumps out 115* heat from the vents, verified by many with thermometers. So perhaps I'm a bit spoiled by the heat output of my VW... but the heat on my OBS I can seriously have full blast and even after the truck is up to temp (somewhere between the O and R in "NORMAL") I wont even be considered "hot" after a road trip.

I'm thinking the radiator and heater core may need a good flushing, but is there something else that frequents these trucks?

I had this issue with my 96 and in hindsight, I realized it was accompanied by a quirky temperature control knob on the dash. I found a pen and a few other things that had fallen through the defroster grill and were preventing proper operation of the temperature blend door.

85_305 03-29-2011 10:39 AM

Well I know my fan speed only works on full blast.. but those thigns that fell thru caused your temp control to not work right??

twinboys 03-29-2011 02:00 PM

The control knob seamed to work, but the door wasn't shutting (or opening) all the way allowing too much outside cold air to be introduced.

When the blend door is fully open (or closed, I forget which), (cold position on the control knob), the blend door directs the air flow to by-pass the heater core. When the blend door is fully in the other position (hot position on the control knob), all the airflow must go through the heater core. A middle position on the knob maintains a partially open blend door, thus the name "blend door". My blend door was jammed and would only allow partial airflow to go through the heater core, the rest went around. The blend door is independant from the fan and the blend door does not affect the quantity of air coming out, only the temperature.

85_305 03-29-2011 05:46 PM

Very interesting!!! Where do I have to access to see if the blend door is jammed?

prison 03-29-2011 07:12 PM

open hood. go to passenger's side by the cab. you'll see an electric motor bolted to a black box that's attatched to the cab. there's a vaccuum actuator on top. try to move the lever on it. if you can't then take the motor out

85_305 03-29-2011 08:52 PM

Sweet! Thanks Erik!!

7.3Powerstroke95 03-29-2011 09:42 PM

I don't think it would have to do with your t stat, my 95 runs the same around OR and if I turn on the heat it blasts me out of the cab.

6dedholes 03-29-2011 09:57 PM

hello, it does sound like a heater core. any repair shop that works on vehicles newer than 95 should have a scan tool. most will have keys for diesel trucks too. a lot cheaper to go to a smaller shop than a dealership

prison 03-29-2011 10:01 PM

no problem. dont try to get the door out without knowing how. you shouldnt need to but its a pain and i ripped half my hand open when i took my broken one out. i actually have a blower and a door on the bench ready to go in whenever i vacuum the box out

85_305 03-29-2011 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by 7.3Powerstroke95 (Post 731510)
I don't think it would have to do with your t stat, my 95 runs the same around OR and if I turn on the heat it blasts me out of the cab.

LOL I'm nowhere near being blasted out of the cab; I'd sure love it that way though!


Originally Posted by 6dedholes (Post 731521)
hello, it does sound like a heater core. any repair shop that works on vehicles newer than 95 should have a scan tool. most will have keys for diesel trucks too. a lot cheaper to go to a smaller shop than a dealership

Thanks for the advice brother! I think once the weather clears up I'm just gonna flush the cooling system and heater core for the hell of it.


Originally Posted by prison (Post 731526)
no problem. dont try to get the door out without knowing how. you shouldnt need to but its a pain and i ripped half my hand open when i took my broken one out. i actually have a blower and a door on the bench ready to go in whenever i vacuum the box out


Hmm.. in that case, I'll be swinging by your place of it comes down to that:tttt:

prison 03-30-2011 12:07 AM

lol my only thought is how would it be stuck? unless a big object got in there because its not a big pin. its just a little plastic shaft. two things i could think of. vacuum issue to it. or the actuator itself unless somehow the door broke. mine was but the blower was out of it so i'm assuming it was broken then. don't see how it could be broke though.

85_305 03-30-2011 12:14 PM

Well thats why you are the expert.. you can assess the situation all you want when I get there buddy ;)

prison 03-30-2011 03:42 PM

lol yeah that'll take me all of ten minutes

85_305 03-30-2011 03:49 PM

Deal! :jump:

twinboys 03-30-2011 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by prison (Post 731660)
lol my only thought is how would it be stuck? unless a big object got in there because its not a big pin. its just a little plastic shaft. two things i could think of. vacuum issue to it. or the actuator itself unless somehow the door broke. mine was but the blower was out of it so i'm assuming it was broken then. don't see how it could be broke though.

In my case, an ink pen had fallen in through the defroster grill and was jamming the blend door and preventing it from completely closing. It would still open fully and close to about 75%.

prison 03-30-2011 11:07 PM

how the hell did you get a pen down there?

twinboys 03-30-2011 11:51 PM

It was there when I bought it used. Kids maybe?

tennwalkers 04-01-2011 08:23 AM

try this simple test before you buy anything. the heater core is very east to get to in most ford trucks it is behind glove box remove small panel and feel heater core when engine is warm if it is cool then check your flow valve operation maybe vac. line is off. I had this problem once it was a crack in the vac. line fix with black tape cost was about a penny good luck

85_305 04-01-2011 11:29 AM

A vac line controls the flow valve?

tennwalkers 04-02-2011 04:39 PM

heat and cool it is all vac. operation, start with easy first you can check water flow at firewall by just feeling the hose. are you getting any air from the vents? I have seen a/c air coils clogged on some trucks before this will all but stop the heat.

85_305 04-02-2011 04:48 PM

Yep the fan puts out a good amount of air. It's just not nearly hot enough.


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