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vr4extrm 05-23-2011 10:53 AM

About to buy 2005 6.0
 
Hello everyone new to the forum and have been reading alot about the 6.0 and have alot of reservations. I am looking to buy a 2006 F-250 6.0 with 80k. I have heard nightmare senerios about the 6.0. I was wondering if I where to buy it what would be the first thing I need to do to up my chances of a long engine life, by what I have read it sounds like the EGR delete. Also Go to a HP oil pump or is it just parts to the oil pump that need to replace or the whole assembly? I am really just going to be pulling horse trailers and such no real massive pulls planned. I would appriciate any help I can get. Should I run or put a few bucks in it and have a good reliable engine?
Thanks

PSD-BLACK-CLOUD 05-23-2011 11:00 AM

Get an oasis report on it. I wouldnt buy another one. Had 2 Its a constant 500 to fix this 1000 to fix that then you blow your heads or lose a few injectors. If you spend a few grand on it it is a good engine. I would buy a 6.4 tune and delete the dpf and egr.

vr4extrm 05-23-2011 11:19 AM

correction
 
Its a 2006 if that changes anything. Oasis report is clean.

PSD-BLACK-CLOUD 05-23-2011 11:40 AM

I had on 04 and an 06. Their are alot of guys who love their 6.0's and swear buy them. Like I said a few grand and you should be ok. And I wouldnt pay more than 18 for it at the most. Because I got 13,300 when I traded my 06 in with 128,000 on it.

Mdub707 05-23-2011 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by PSD-BLACK-CLOUD (Post 756432)
Get an oasis report on it. I wouldnt buy another one. Had 2 Its a constant 500 to fix this 1000 to fix that then you blow your heads or lose a few injectors. If you spend a few grand on it it is a good engine. I would buy a 6.4 tune and delete the dpf and egr.


And then blow the headgaskets from too much backpressure since you deleted the EGR without put a wastegate in? Not sure how that will end up any different than the 6.0. You can block it off and be OK, but still an issue on the hot tunes.


I agree, get an Oasis report first.


What are your plans for the truck? Is this something you want to mod and hot rod, or just a stock tower, or what?

Diesel Dawgs Performance 05-23-2011 11:57 AM

I never had any issues out of either of my 04 or 05 6.0 Powerstrokes.

vr4extrm 05-23-2011 12:03 PM

Plans
 
I just plan to have it as a stock puller not really looking to do much. Ive been researching a while because of the things I have heard. What I am Kind of getting is delete the EGR and get a cooler bypass. A Little confused about the oil cooler though is it just the bits and pieces that need replaced our the whole system. Or does that even need to be done with a bypass cooler installed. Thanks for any help I have read almost the whole forum and I know alot of things have been asked I am just tring to get it all down in one place where I can read it.

Mdub707 05-23-2011 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by vr4extrm (Post 756479)
I just plan to have it as a stock puller not really looking to do much. Ive been researching a while because of the things I have heard. What I am Kind of getting is delete the EGR and get a cooler bypass. A Little confused about the oil cooler though is it just the bits and pieces that need replaced our the whole system. Or does that even need to be done with a bypass cooler installed. Thanks for any help I have read almost the whole forum and I know alot of things have been asked I am just tring to get it all down in one place where I can read it.


Check the Oasis first, it could be a problem truck, or it might be clean, never know. If you're going to run it stock, I'd get a coolant filter, a full egr delete, if you can, and while I was in there, I'd just throw a new oil cooler in, just to be safe. See if the STC fitting update has been done or not, if not, I would do that while it was apart. Other than that, it should be a pretty reliable truck. A good 4" turbo back exhaust, some gauges and an SCT with custom tuning wouldn't hurt either. You can get good solid towing tunes that don't add a lot of power, but help the trans tremendously.

IMO, the most important thing you can add to any 6.0 is a fuel pressure gauge. This will protect your expensive injectors.

vr4extrm 05-23-2011 01:53 PM

ok
 
So pretty much this (Basic Solution(TM) for Ford 6.0L Powerstroke With Sinister EGR Delete Kit, Oil Cooler and Intake Gaskets) and fuel pressure gauge and I should be good for what I plan.

PSD-BLACK-CLOUD 05-23-2011 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Mdub707 (Post 756473)
And then blow the headgaskets from too much backpressure since you deleted the EGR without put a wastegate in? Not sure how that will end up any different than the 6.0. You can block it off and be OK, but still an issue on the hot tunes.


I agree, get an Oasis report first.


What are your plans for the truck? Is this something you want to mod and hot rod, or just a stock tower, or what?

If you get the full delete and not just the block off plates i am prety sure it comes with a wastegate.

Mdub707 05-23-2011 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by vr4extrm (Post 756507)
So pretty much this (Basic Solution(TM) for Ford 6.0L Powerstroke With Sinister EGR Delete Kit, Oil Cooler and Intake Gaskets) and fuel pressure gauge and I should be good for what I plan.

If it was me, I'd piece the stuff together myself, you'll save some money. But yes, to answer your questiont that's a good foundation to start with.


Originally Posted by PSD-BLACK-CLOUD (Post 756509)
If you get the full delete and not just the block off plates i am prety sure it comes with a wastegate.

The EGR coolers ARE the wastegates on the 6.4. You remove them completely and you need a wastegate, some kits probably come with them, but just an added expensive, and a lot more added trouble for those that don't know. Just wanted to point it out is all. I think if you just do the blocker plates the wastegates still function, but do NOT quote me on that. Either way, they still have backpressure issues on the hot tunes, thus the single turbo kits popping up now.

The 6.4 and 6.0 share the same head design... just food for thought.

PSD-BLACK-CLOUD 05-23-2011 02:30 PM

Yea some people are melting or cracking pistons. And some blow the heads on bigger tunes.

Mdub707 05-23-2011 02:33 PM

Unforutnatley cracking/melting pistons is quite the common issue among commonrail owners, haven't heard too much about this on the 6.4's though... interesting. The headgasket issues on the 6.4 seem to be pointing more towards backpressure issues, not just timing/boost issues like on a 6.0. 6.4 is definitely a stout motor, no doubt about it. 1000+hp on stock bottom ends is impressive!

bobfbigman 05-23-2011 03:04 PM

VR/// when you do the coolant filters change the coolant, I would pull the lower hose and that should get anything that has built up to flow out easier. just make sure you use tow mode when towing and with the add ons you are planning on you should be OK

jhart242 07-02-2011 04:10 AM

I love my 6.0. You WILL have to dump money in it sooner than later. I had my FICM go at 90,000 and my turbo at 109,000. EVERY car, truck, train, plane or woman will have problems.

PowerstrokeTech87 07-02-2011 05:43 PM

lol people crack heads and melt pistons in stock form on a 6.4! theyre 10x worse than a 6.0.

Mdub707 07-03-2011 10:41 AM

I disagree there. I'm sure you're seeing 10x more 6.4's than 6.0's right now, but so is every tech. You'll naturally see more of a vehicle in for repair when they're still under warranty. To my knowledge the 03 6.0 was Ford's #1 most expensive warranty repair of any year/model ever.

The heads are exactly the same on the 6.4 as late model 6.0's, and people with stock 6.0's crack heads all the time too. They seem to crack a ton of valve guides too. I wouldn't say they're 10x worse than a 6.0. JMO!


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