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Thunderheader 10-11-2010 01:20 PM

Hey Overseasoned,

I think I may hear the same noise when I turn my truck off. From what I can gather that is the turbo winding down. I'm not sure if this is normal which I would think it is since the turbo would be in an idle stage. I am in no way an expert in turbos or diesels in fact I'm still learning.

Overseasoned 11-29-2010 07:56 AM

Update:

About 1.5 hours into a 2.5 hour drive, the truck began to heat up beyond normal temp, and the truck kicked the fan system into high gear. It did not overheat, it just heated up beyond normal. I hope it wasn't getting a false reading by way of an empty cooling system.

I pulled over and saw some drops on the coolant bottle, and it seemed to be empty. I could also hear the afore-mentioned noises, and they were coming from the coolant bottle. I will replace coolant as necessary and replace the bottle cap. I'm assuming I'm losing fluid somewhere else, as well as the bottle cap, but I've never seen any leakage underneath the truck.

If anyone has any other insights into this, they'd be appreciated. I'll update when something changes.

Thanks.

Mdub707 11-29-2010 10:03 AM

Could be a ruptured EGR cooler, or headgaskets, and in that case if it's a small amount it's just burning it off and you don't notice it. Do you get any smoke on start up in the mornings?

Overseasoned 11-29-2010 01:10 PM

I used to get some blue when it started up cold, but the block heater took care of that. Otherwise, no.

Mdub707 11-29-2010 03:29 PM

yeah a little blue on start up is just fuel not burning all the way.

Bulletproof diesel has a cool video on youtube that looks like a cheap easy way to test to see if you have a bad EGR cooler, bad headgaskets, or both. Might be worth checking out!

If you're overpressurizing the coolant system and forcing coolant out, it's one of the two. OR your cap could just be bad. I think they're like $12 from Napa. Might be worth trying.

Overseasoned 11-30-2010 05:10 PM

I checked out Bulletproof Diesel and it looks like they have some pretty good stuff. I did not see any information about checking the head gaskets, but I took a look at the EGR valve check.

I haven't been able to actually check the valve - I don't have access to any tools right now, but I've been doing a lot of research about this whole issue and some of it is confusing me.

I've taken a look at EGR deletes, EGR cooler upgrades, and coolant filtration + oil cooler replacement. What I've read leads me to believe that people either do an EGR delete OR an EGR cooler upgrade AND new oil cooler AND coolant filtration. Also, it would seem that most people have solved the problem with an EGR delete, but that doesn't make sense because the problem starts with a clogged oil cooler. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the system, but I feel like you would need to replace the oil cooler and get a coolant filter whether you did an EGR delete OR an EGR cooler upgrade, since the casting debris clogging the oil cooler is the root of the issue.

Sorry about the long-winded-ness, but as I get more information about the situation I'm getting more and more confused about it.

And, on top of that, like you said, it could just be a bad cap, but I don't really have any way of testing it.

I'm very :argh::argh::argh::argh: right now.

Mdub707 11-30-2010 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Overseasoned (Post 659614)
I checked out Bulletproof Diesel and it looks like they have some pretty good stuff. I did not see any information about checking the head gaskets, but I took a look at the EGR valve check.

I haven't been able to actually check the valve - I don't have access to any tools right now, but I've been doing a lot of research about this whole issue and some of it is confusing me.

I've taken a look at EGR deletes, EGR cooler upgrades, and coolant filtration + oil cooler replacement. What I've read leads me to believe that people either do an EGR delete OR an EGR cooler upgrade AND new oil cooler AND coolant filtration. Also, it would seem that most people have solved the problem with an EGR delete, but that doesn't make sense because the problem starts with a clogged oil cooler. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the system, but I feel like you would need to replace the oil cooler and get a coolant filter whether you did an EGR delete OR an EGR cooler upgrade, since the casting debris clogging the oil cooler is the root of the issue.

Sorry about the long-winded-ness, but as I get more information about the situation I'm getting more and more confused about it.

And, on top of that, like you said, it could just be a bad cap, but I don't really have any way of testing it.

I'm very :argh::argh::argh::argh: right now.


You're on the right track. Here's the video I was talking about, I should have just posted it originally, sorry about that.


A few other things to add:

A coolant filter is a good thing to add no matter what you have or don't have on there. It wont hurt a thing and is quite inexpensive.

A full delete setup (deletes the EGR valve and cooler) are a great idea and IMO the best solution, but if you live in a state where they do emissions testing, or you just want to keep a factory look, the bulletproof kit is a great choice, just more money than a delete.

A new oil cooler, or a rebuild kit is a VERY good idea, if you're already digging in. It wont hurt anything and in most cases is more of a necessity than anything. Yes, even if you're doing an EGR full delete, it's still good, since it can also cause headgasket issues.

Clear as mud?

Overseasoned 11-30-2010 06:33 PM

As clear as green tea, thank you :tu:

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Actually let me ask you this .. how does an EGR Delete solve the problem if it has to do with the clogged Oil Cooler?

Again, let me know if I'm misunderstanding the system, I just want to understand how it all works before I choose an option.

*Never-mind .. it solves the bad EGR problem alone, I see now. The clogged oil cooler is still a problem and can still cause separate issues .. right?

Mdub707 11-30-2010 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by Overseasoned (Post 659659)
As clear as green tea, thank you :tu:

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Actually let me ask you this .. how does an EGR Delete solve the problem if it has to do with the clogged Oil Cooler?

Again, let me know if I'm misunderstanding the system, I just want to understand how it all works before I choose an option.

*Never-mind .. it solves the bad EGR problem alone, I see now. The clogged oil cooler is still a problem and can still cause separate issues .. right?


Yep. EGR delete should more or less be done anytime, as long as the valve or the cooler is there, it can fail. If it "falls off" then nothing can happen right?

Clogged oil cooler can still mess with your headgaskets. An oil bypass filter setup never hurt a diesel either.

Mingle 11-30-2010 10:59 PM

I think these trucks have a turbo.


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