School Me On Buying A Used 6.0
 

Let's say '05-'07, auto, 4x4, Crew Cab and staying under 40K miles.

What should a guy look for that may show future problems? What are the things to be afraid of?

Get the vin and get an oasis report. That will show every single bit of warranty work the truck has gone to the dealer for. That's a good start right there.

there's not enough time in the day
 

egr,headgasket/head bolts. $6,000.00 need i say more.:ouch:

Well, yeah I know about the 6.0s and the HG issues and EGR issues. I'm pretty sure everyone does. I think most diesels today are struggling with an EGR problem in some form.

But what are the chances on a stock truck or even a truck with a mild programmer?

Does losing the EGR mean less of a possibility of a HG failure?

Is there something a guy needs to look at to try and see if a HG failure is in the near future?

nothing you can really check except to take the oil cap off while it's running and check for blowby, make sure there is no coolant in the oil. Stuff like that. No way to tell if the headgaskets are "weak"

6.0
 

Best thing to do is get the oasis first. Then jump on the 7 year 200,000 mile extended warrenty from Ford. These things will pop head gaskets stock so thats how that goes. Shoot me a vin and i'll check it out for you.

Noone else has any advice?

What do they get for mileage? I keep hearing they can't get a crew cab up to 20mpg. Is that true?

I've had my 2wd Crewcab long bed right under 20 at about 19.8 a few times. I'm sure if I ran 65 instead of 70 I could get 20.

Charleys son just ditched a 05 6.0

he had it for 2 years and 3 sets of injectors, a fuel pump and that EGR valve

wasnt runnin fer crap the day of the trade

odd thisg is all the work was done at the Ford shop but nuttin shows up on a carfax search.....it shows clean :ouch:

I have 2200 bucks into that truck and Charley has a bit more than that :ouch::ouch::ouch:

Things to be afraid of? um key word Ford. JK

sorry couldn't resist.

I know some have had good luck with the 6.0 but I also know alot more havent


most recalled vehicle in history.........I think its up to 68 recalls IIRC:ouch:

My advice would be dont buy it. Find an older 7.3 you can be happy with or go with a cummins. I know a lot of guys wont buy anything other than a ford, and thats fine. The trucks themselves are damn near perfect. Its the motor that would send me running. This is just my opinion, your mileage may vary. ;)

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Car fax doesnt show engine repairs. And if they put 3 complete sets of injectors in it and it still didnt run right there idiots.

it wasnt complete sets of injectors.......................2 injectors 2 times and 3 once

do you want the 6.0 because of the newer truck wrapped around it or because you really want a 6.0? there are lots of 00-03 trucks for sale, granted they have some miles on them now but they are a pretty proven platform.

i wouldnt own a 6.0 from 2003, 2004, or 2005. the ones from 2006 and 2007 seem to be better. at least thats the word i get from guys i know who have them.

i think thats the biggest downfall to the 6.0's instead of actually getting into it and finding what was actually causing most of the problems they would just continue to slap new parts on it. thus they wouldnt actually SOLVE the problem.. it was more ike they just wanted to push it under the rug

Guess i should go drive my 04 off a cliff then......:bat:

^^^hahaha thats funny:yeah::U:

there are ways to get the 6.0 to run good even great. its the lack of knowledge and all the people that talk bad about them. first off the early years had high pressure problems that are now solved in the newer ones.the early years were a pain to work on this cause the timing setup is in the rear of the motor. second the turbo was designed to be run under real clean fuel conditions and under those conditions it performes well but the carbon builds prevents the turbo from working properly.so add another fuel filter system like or something equivalent.the heads have two problems 1 is there are only 4 bolts around each cylinder which causes alot of stress on the the torque to yeild bolts which are used from the factory. so install head studs to solve the problem as they are torqued to over 200 ft lbs. 2 problem is the valve train just wasn't designed for longjevity in my opinion seen alot of valve jobs. some from high egt's taking there toll on valve seats and some just from valve wear.in order to fix these problems the cab has to come off do to the ac box being in the way of taking out the head bolt. which cost more in labor.the egr and cooler are just problems all in there own. fix is egr delet kit.the injector problem would also aid from cleaner fuel. the tolerances are just so tight in there that water or any contaminates just ruin them. and keeping your oil clean will help.

If you really want to I suppose. if you're offended by the fact that I don't prefer them, well, sorry you feel that way...but if you're up for it, look me up when you hit 380,000 miles on your 6.0 and I'll buy you a beer. :c:

they arent old enough to have 380000 miles on them, give it a few years, i have had no problems with my 2004 6.0, faulty wiring harness, but that was a glitch. even with all of my mods to my truck, i have had no problems.

Ummm I've already seen 6.0's with 500K on them.

it was just a personal opinion based on what ive seen with trucks people i work with own. no need to get a defensive about it. sheesh. :)

'06 here with 39,000.....got it with 32,000.......hasnt missed a beat.. wish me some luck

Why 6.0?
 

I own a 03 F350 6.0 dually. I bought it with 45000 miles on it in 05. I now have 135000 on it but they have very expensive miles. My truck spent from last thanksgiving until 1 Feb 09 at a Ford Dealer because they could not figure out what the problem was. In the end I had a new fuel pump, wire harness, fuel filters, pair of new batteries, and 2 new injectors. Total $4000 spent...Update for the last 2 months it has been leaking coolant at the rate of a gallon every week at $16 for G5 coolant. Oh and last week I had to have a new alternator installed.

Dude if you want a Powerstroke!! Get an older 7.3 You can run the wheels off of them. A buddy bought a 99 7.3 about the same time i did and all he has replaced is oil, fuel, and washer fluid, maybe a set of washer blades. He bought his with 145000 on it and he is now well over 200k.

I would say to buy a 6.0 only if you like spending money and fixing stuff

I have heard that the powerstroke does not get anywhere close to 20mpg. The few i have talk to say they are lucky to get 17 or 18 outta theres.

my buddy had an 05 powerchoke and had alot of issues with it and about 2 weeks ago he trade it for a 07 6.7l cummins he said he doesn't know what he was think when he bought it because his cummins has alot more power than his 6.0l. he is a die hard ford fan ever truck he has is a ford, but his cummins know

My 6.0 has been runnin great with the new motor. Bought it in december with 86k on it. A week or two after i got it the egr cooler went out. Still under warrenty so i took it, they did a HG check and they were weak. When they tore into it they found that the previous owner had overhated the dog piss out of it and the motor was trash. Couldnt tell, it ran bad ass and had a clean oasis. I have 97k now with no other problems, most of it on a hot tune. BTW its awsome to get a brand new motor for only 100 bucks.:yeah: Any way, after having owned both my CR Cummins and this 6.0. I know i sound crazy, but id go 6.0 again in a heart beat. With just the little bit i have done to this truck so far, it feels almost as powerful as my CR. I know I wont be able to make huge power with it, but itll still be damn quick.

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BTW just waitin on the heads to lift so i can try and get studs in under warrenty. :w2:

Can someone please tell me how to run the Oasis check? I have owned both the 03 F250 with the 7.3L banks etc. and the 04 6.0L with subsequent edge etc. I had nothing but problems with the 04 6.0L. I had two turbos replaced and numerous other parts replaced chasing the problem (which was mentioned previously. They don't know what the scope of the problem is many times) The final fix was to replace the turbo the second time and reflash the computer in which is absolutely killed the power (I guess they reduced the fuel pressure or ?) but I had such a bad turbo lag and no power that I finally got the edge system. It helped a lot but wasn't perfect. Truck got stolen so I bought the 03 with the 7.3L. Man what a great engine that is. I would have kept it but I need a 4x4 now. So I sold it and bought the 06 Dodge 3500. Great motor, great running. Terrible on the comfort and really lacking in any creator comforts. I filled it up twice and only got 15mpg. Sold it in two weeks of owning it and have purchased an 07 F350 4x4. Wow, I got to say this is nice. The motor is strong and smooth. Big improvement over the 04. I am going to look into a EGR delete kit and the SCT for it. Can anyone give me advice on that. You can PM me so as not to steal this thread. Thanks:pca1:

There is a key word there 04redstroker, you said "it feels almost as powerful as my CR". :ouch::argh:

lol Numbers wise it makin less, but I bet it would keep up. The power comes on alot different. i guess cuz its a v8

they can not get a crew cab up to that i have a 2005 with arp head studs, egr block, and banks programmer with cold air intake and banks full exhaust from turbo back aand i get 15 on hwy

leave it be

When did they build a good one???