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SuperBlazin 07-31-2012 12:23 AM

Code 0069 no start
 
Ok so I did the turbo cleaning procedure, now I can't get the truck to start. Sound like it wants to but no dice. Scan shows code 0069
- I checked Vgt connection
- cleaned map sensor

All wires looked hooked up

Any clues to what I pooched.

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Still stuck! When in doubt start over right. So I spent the evening pulling the turbo again and threw the batteries on charge over night.

I will crack open the charger again in the morning to see if I messed something up in there..

Any others suggestions are most welcome and encouraged

Mdub707 07-31-2012 09:24 AM

That's a Map sensor code.

P0069 Baro Map/Baro correlation Map/Baro, EP must be within 1 psi.

So it reads the EPB sensor and the MAP sensor. Try making sure the map sensor plug is seated correctly. What did you clean it with? What about the Map vacuum line running to the intake manifold, is that still attached?

There's nothing you could have done with the turbo that would cause an no start, I wouldn't tear it out or apart again.

SuperBlazin 07-31-2012 09:31 AM

Thanks for chiming in buddy! I did pull the turbo last night. Just cause I enjoyed it so much the first time!
- I detailed the unison ring and base with the 3m disks, it wasn't that bad or coked up like I've seen in pics. Very minimal piting
When I reassembled I put a thin coat nickle anti seize on between the bottom of ring and also on top of base

Mdub707 07-31-2012 10:35 AM

I see international says to use the anti seize and Ford says not to... seen guys do it both ways, some techs swear one way is better than the other. I'll be interested to see how that plays out for you.

I'd definitely re-check that map sensor though, and the vacuum hose. If those look good, you may even want to pull the EPB sensor and clean that and the tube for it, if you haven't done so yet.

SuperBlazin 07-31-2012 01:25 PM

Got her all together, still no fire!
Same thing sounds like its going to catch then nuttin

Cleaned the map sensor and tube no blockage.
Cleaned the EPb sensor and tube.

Guess I'll go buy a map sensor and hope it works

Mdub707 07-31-2012 02:01 PM

It could be the sensor is bad... man that's a tough one. Are you getting smoke out of the exhaust at all when cranking?

bobfbigman 07-31-2012 02:10 PM

If a sensor is bad unplug it and try to start it, generally the only way a sensor can keep it from starting is if it is shorted out

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what all did you disconnect to remove turbo? the truck will run without turbo installed so that is not the issue.

SuperBlazin 07-31-2012 02:22 PM

Well it's not the map sensor. :scare2:
Almost looks like white/grey cloud after key off

Guess I'm goin back to stealers hip for a couple more sensors :argh:
Not sure how any of these could take a crap from cleaning a turbo!

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Originally Posted by bobfbigman (Post 920896)
If a sensor is bad unplug it and try to start it, generally the only way a sensor can keep it from starting is if it is shorted out

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what all did you disconnect to remove turbo? the truck will run without turbo installed so that is not the issue.

- degass bottle moved
- intake cold air
- cac tube
- disconnected Vgt wire
Pulled turbo. Pretty basic !

Do you think the vgt sensor could be contaminated from the cleaning?

bobfbigman 07-31-2012 02:52 PM

The vgt " sensor" is not a sensor, it is an actuator-basically a solenoid that limits how huch oil pressure through to activate the vanes of the turbo.
i WOULD SAY LETS GET BACK TO BASICS, check the connections on the Ficm to make sure they are snapped in good, could have gotten bumped or knocked loose some how.
Go ahead and pull the IPR and check the screen on it to make sure it is not broken or clogged, I forget what year this truck is but if the ICP is on the valve cover unplug it once and try to start it, it is basically a safe mode that shows the computer a set HP oil signal so it doesn't leave you stranded if sensor totally fails.

Mdub707 07-31-2012 03:22 PM

Check the wiring harness going to the map sensor over very carefully. You've got a code for MAP there... it's pointing us to something...

SuperBlazin 07-31-2012 04:27 PM

Change ebp sensor
Did a half shell on the ficm. As a 0611 ame up from cranking on it I guess and running batts low so all those connections are good

Did the Icp disconnect and test. No dice there
Checked the harness all the way across the fire wall. Its all shielded so I don't see any damage to the shielding.

Guess were down to Icp.
Looks like I gotta go by a (30mm?) wrench and a Ipr sensor. Then pull that turbo. "again"

bobfbigman 07-31-2012 05:35 PM

Don't buy a new IPR, the main thing that goes wrong is the screen gets clogged or damaged and can be cleaned or replaced, replacements are around $30 I think, and it is a 35mm wrench for the IPR, or with turbo off you can even use a small pipe wrench. If any of the local parts places have the IPR socket then you can move the degass bottle out of the way and remove the FICM and you can get to the IPR from drivers side.

SuperBlazin 07-31-2012 07:14 PM

I am soon stumped!
Changed Icp and ipr got it all back together
And still nothing! I am at a loss here. Family has had their bags packed sitting by the door waiting to go to the lake since this am! I feel like a real turd.

Dealership isn't avail to take in for another week and a half

bobfbigman 07-31-2012 09:16 PM

PMed you

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He got it going:c: butterfly valve on an 05????:argh::argh::argh::argh::argh:, no wonder it was hard to figure out

Mdub707 08-01-2012 10:33 AM

What? Really? I've never seen one on an 05. What's the build date?

Was it just stuck Bob?

bobfbigman 08-01-2012 11:51 AM

Yes, the butterfly valve was stuck and he says it's a 05, he is north of the border so maybe they still used it in the 05s up there, lucky someone up there recommended he check that because I never would have thought of it for that year, says he is going to get the later intake elbow so it doesn't happen again.

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lso as a note, he says the air intake has the temp sensor and the Maf sensor in it, I know in late 04 and mid 05 they were messing around with those/ Maf only/ temp only/ Maf and temp/ so this is something to remember.


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