No Reprogramming The 2009 Cummins
 

I found this TSB and thought that you all might find it interesting. What they are doing now is that if you try to put any type of programmer on the truck starting in 09, it will kill the ECM. Also, if you have a 2007 and newer truck and your ECM gets replaced for one reason or another, you will get this new computer. :madd:

Here is the TSB.

SUBJECT:
No Crank, No Start - Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) With DTC U1601
MODELS:

2009 (DH/D1) Ram Trucks (2500/3500 Pick Up)
2009 (DC/DM) Cab Chassis (3500/4500/5500)

NOTE: This bulletin applies to 2009 vehicles equipped with a Cummins 6.7L diesel engine (Sales code ETJ) built after March 04, 2009 (MDH0304XX)
programmed with bootloader software number 00 06 01 (or later). 2007 and
newer vehicles that have had the ECM replaced with the new bootloader
software will also be effected.

DISCUSSION:
This bulletin explains a Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) illumination due to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC); U1601 - ECU Application Software Code 1 Missing Or Corrupted. If the Engine Control Module (ECM) does not have a calibration installed, or has an unapproved calibration installed then the ECM will be in a Read Only Memory (ROM) boot state. The ECM will have power but the lack of approved software will not allow the vehicle to be started and driven. No further diagnostics of the ECM will be available at this time.
This code will be cleared and issue resolved when the ECM is updated with the correct approved calibration.
Refer to the DealerCONNECT > TechCONNECT > Service
Information for more detail.

DTC U1601 set outside of the dealership with a no crank, no start condition caused by unauthorized (up-rate) software will NOT be covered under the terms of the warranty.

DTC U1601 code may also be set when a legitimate flash is interrupted for any reason. This bulletin also involves explanations of the effects that aftermarket “Up-rate Kits” have on Cummins engine and emission systems.
NOTE: Replacement ECM's supplied by Mopar may also contain the secure
bootloader software, thus the conditions listed above may apply to 2007 and
newer vehicles if the ECM has been replaced.

NUMBER: 18-007-09
GROUP: Vehicle Performance
DATE: March 13, 2009
CAUTION: Some customers may come in requesting a software update because the up-rate software does not recognize the secure bootloader software (even though the controller may be up to date). This should serve as a warning that the customer is attempting to tamper with the calibration in
the vehicle's ECM. Up-Rate kits are numerous and may include aftermarket software downloads. Engines that have had tampering will generate excess soot and may damage the Turbocharger, Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) and Oxygen Sensors (O2) and/or other emission system(s), air handling or fuel control components. Some of the changes caused by Up-Rate kits (but not limited to) :
• Engine calibration, including emissions.
• Governors, including engine speed and vehicle top speed.
• Torque and horsepower (which may cause other drive line component damage).
• Diagnostics, preventing MIL illumination.
• Drivability and torque management control.
DIAGNOSIS PROCEDURE:
1. Refer to the detailed service information available in DealerCONNECT >
TechCONNECT under: Service Info > 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics > MODULE,
Engine Control (ECM), 6.7L > Diagnosis and Testing > U1601 - ECU Application
Software Code 1 Missing Or Corrupted.

Give me a good ol p-pump any day over that garbage!!!!

Hell, I'll even deal with my VP truck for that matter. At least once I come into a bit of cash I am going to try and re-write some software for its ECM with my laptop. A feller did that bout a year ago on DTR. Havent heard from him since. Maybe someone at cummins or one of the aftermarket companies that spent thousands upon thousands of dollars in research silenced him...

The aftermarket will find ways around it. Sounds to me like you should still be able to put a stand-alone box on it, like an edge comp, for example, just not a smarty or bully dog downloader.

As far as Im concerned, the future of diesel performance is doomed. You can thank the Government and EPA for that.

I do hope the aftermarket can deal with this kind of crap.

well i for one won`t be buying an 07 or up vehicle!
they won`t be getting out of their troubles selling vehicles if they keep this crap up:bat::madd:

Bunch of BS!! Why can't they just leave us alone and let us BOMB in peace!?!? :argh::argh:

That is BS. Someone needs to pay. :bat:

Ooo that kind of thing makes me mad.

They can't pull any of that crap with my 1st gen.

And I've changed my mind. Instead of a heavily bombed 6.7, I want a 2nd gen for my next truck.

Well, People we need to stop the EPA and other do gooders. they are destroying our beloved country. :bat: Next they will take our wepons and then we will be without diesels and guns.:argh:

That really sucks!!:booo:
To think I was just looking at a new 3500 today. Guess I will stick with my 05.

I'm sure it wont take the aftermarket long to get around it, after all its just a computer... 1's and 0's baby!