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Wyatt Earp 05-29-2007 02:38 PM

Dodge Cummins Advanced Upgrades
 
Ok, so I couldn't think of anything better to call it - DR. Evil, stop your laughing...

Right, so, everyone knows all the stuff about the basic upgrades: Exhaust, Air Intakes, Injectors and Lift Pumps but what of the next step?

Obviously there are 3 main types beyond that - the daily driver (includes towing), the drag truck and the sled puller.

It doesn't seem fully obvious to me what the power mods are for each when you breach these barriers.

For major towing you'd need things like:
    :sen:
    For the Drag Truck

      Anyway you see where I'm going with this. And my question is this: of the more obsure, less discussed performance installs what goes with what grouping and so on.

      Be honest, be realistic and be creative as well.:pc:
      :c:

      ndurbin 05-29-2007 02:52 PM

      Alot depends on how deep your wallet is.

      400 - 450hp is usually a good HP goal for a tow rig, you can do more if ya want. Towing heavy with high HP puts a strain on alotta stuff. I'd rather it have some mild upgrades, dependability, and save the cash for the toys it tows. But thats just my .02

      Wyatt Earp 05-29-2007 02:55 PM

      It's not a money thing but more a product thing. We want dependability, and good mileage with gobs of power to boot.

      Buckshotmckee 05-29-2007 02:58 PM

      You forgot STACKS! :up:

      jasonfriedlin 05-29-2007 03:32 PM

      How about some tranny upgrades, especially on autos.

      Begle1 05-29-2007 05:13 PM

      It's totally dependent on the truck.

      And whether or not you want to stick them needles in your arm.

      ndurbin 05-29-2007 05:17 PM

      Hmmmmm well if money were no option then.

      Start with an 03 - 07 Dodge 3500 SRW Quad Cab 4x4 auto.

      BOMBs:
      Edge Juice w/ Attitude combo
      Smarty Programmer
      AEM Workhorse Intake
      Set of towing twins w/ exhaust manifold
      BD Cool-It Intercooler (if it were the intercooler w/ plastic)
      BD intercooler hoses
      CFM intake horn
      4" Turbo back to 5" Aussie or Miter cut stacks
      Billet trans. peices and rebuild (probably DTT)
      FASS 150 series pump w/ filters

      And alotta other little supporting BOMBs to help.

      That'd make a pretty nice tow rig, daily driver, and drag racer all in one.

      Wyatt Earp 05-31-2007 10:18 AM

      Ok that's a good start but I was wanting to consider the less than "normally" discussed upgrades - gaskets, studs, turbo's, valve springs and that sort of thing.

      Like for example, what differences does an intercooler (like the BD) and an intake (BD, CFM, ATS, Banks) do for you? Is it worth the money, what does it do for the driveability, should this only be considered for those with very deep pockets and so on?

      That brings me to the subject of injection - are the things like LPG and Water or Methane injection used only for the drag's - does LPG really increase MPG and range?

      Here's the thing - for the company truck (my 2002) I want to build a truck that looks cool, has enough power and enough smoke to be fun (but not stupid) and I want to break the 30 imperial miles per gallon mark (7.8 L/100 km). I'm basically wondering if it is at all possible if nothing more.

      ndurbin 05-31-2007 11:57 AM

      If it's a 2wd/manual I'd say ya got a shot, a small one tho.

      An intercooler on a 2nd gen isn't worth the money. An intake horn really isn't worth the money from a purely performance stand point (atleast when their $350+), cosmetically and the benefit of the plugs on the back make it handy for boost gauge and h2o/meth nozzle installs. Studs are pretty much mandatory if ya wanna push more than 35 lbs. of boost.

      Nitrous is pretty much the only one thats purely for racing/sled pulling/dyno queens. You can use propane and h2o/meth for towing and daily driving. H2O/Meth. probably wouldn't be real pratical for much daiily driving, but depends on the kit and your desire to refill the tank all the time.

      Wyatt Earp 05-31-2007 12:13 PM

      Interesting. No the truck is a stick 4x4 and I have seen as low as 10.4L / 100 km before but to get any lower seems like a major undertaking - similar to say going the otherway and trying to break the high 10's.


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