4bt in a 95 f150?
 

Hi im new to this site and to diesels. I am looking to ditch my 5.0 in my 95 f150 4x4 extended cab and go with a 4bt with a zf5 manuel transmission. I think this is my best option since I dont do any towing, frame and suspension can handle the weight, and looking for better fuel mileage. Im getting rid of the E4od and installing the zf5. Is there going to be any issues with the transfercases doing this? I suppose I will also need an adapter plate to marry the engine and tranny together. Anyone who has done this type of swap or has any useful tips or suggestions they would be much appreciated. Thanks

i would suggest an nv4500 from a dodge,it will have the drivers side front diff drop, and you can use a stock dodge flywheel housing from a 5.9, which i think may be more readily available than the cummins to ford housing. also go get a stock ford manual pedal assembly and master cylinder, you can use the ford clutch set up with the dodge style slave cylinder.:tu:

I see what your Sayin, makes sense. Just a matter of finding one. Anyone have suggestions for motor mounts?

make em! ill send you picks of mine.

sounds like a cool project!

Agree, agree, and agree :tu:

Best of luck to you :tu:

If I use the nv4500 will there be any transfer case, or 4x4 issues that will need to be addressed? As far as motor mounts I would love to make my own but im not a welder; however, I heard you can use the motor mounts out of a step van (bread van) with little modifications needed. Any thoughts on this?

Just find you a dodge with the NV4500 and transfer case, use both, and the only thing you should have to custom make is both driveshafts. Im not an expert on the 4wd stuff, but it seems right to me.

Also if you want to go the route, I know companies sell motor mounts for the 5.9, and I would imagine they do for the 4bt too.

no matter what you do you will have to modify the trans crossmember, but it really isnt that hard.

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I was looking at the mounts on fordcummins. Anyone have any knowledge or experience with these?

I used them with mine, the ones for the 6BT. Nothing but good about FordCummins from this guy :tu:

And ditto on the crossmember. For the NV4500, we moved it back about 3-4 inches, drilled new holes in the frame for the crossmember, and new holes in the crossmember for the tranny.

Sounds good. Now I just need to find a nv4500 with a transfer case without breaking the bank.

buy a 96+ dodge 4x4 with a burntup motor, take everything you need from it, accesory brackets, wiring, flywheel housing, ect, then peddle the block as a core and sell the truck. w00t!:c:

Why not use a ZF5 tranny? I understand that the NV4500 is superior in strength, reliability and aftermarket support, but I've run many many ZF5's into the ground behind 7.3 IDI diesels and have had very little trouble with them. If he's not towing very often, and not looking to be a dyno/track/sled queen, then maybe the ZF5 could offer it's weight savings and native-to-Ford-doghouses attributes....not to mention being something a little different. If the ZF5's can handle the numbers of a 7.3 IDI, albiet far from impressive, then they should handle that 4BT just fine. DeStroked makes adaptor plates for them, and the transfercase behind the E4OD should bolt right up to the ZF5. Just food for thought...:w2:

Sounds good. Ill look into that too

Depending on his budget, an adapter plate would throw an extra $700 into the pot. Now if he can find a ZF5 for considerably cheaper than an NV, then go for it.