Hi jee-dsl,
Please pm me with price includes shipping and payment detail. I am excited to get my project going. Thanks
Greenboulder95

You dont have enough posts to pm, you can email my website at OM617 Mercedes Diesel Conversion Jeep Wrangler YJ Engine Adapter Swap Thanks PS we have motor mounts if your doing a wrangler swap.

Not a very clean or thought out conversion.

very nice conversion
 

I've done allot of jeep conversion to dsl using cummins 4bt 6bt and volk 1.9 tdi.
your conversion looks very appealing. my hats off to ya for a very well job done. :):jump:

Sory dude, but that was kinda' rude. :td:

Got any pictures of conversions you've done so we can critique your work? :bat:

I like the "turbo diesel" badge, and the tri-star on the grill nice touch....
Great work over all....

John

Nice Job, very interested...the conversion parts look very nice...I have a TJ I bought for the sole purpose of a diesel swap. Keep the info coming!

First of all, this is an awesome swap. thanks for info and pics. i am interested in the motor mounts. do you have pictures and price. i am looking forward to do this swap probably spring next year. i got a few projects to get out of the way first. cheers!

Good news we got 24.1 MPG on this last tank of Diesel. :jump: We are gathering parts for the WVO conversion now.

NICE! That's about typical for an MB 300D with the same motor, and about 8-10 mpg better than the carbureted 4.2L I-6 in most YJs, 7-9 mpg better than the fuel injected 4.0L in most XJs and TJs, and even 6-8 mpg better than the fuel injected 2.5L I-4!

Gotta' love that...

You've got it running well, why do you want to abuse it now?

For many people, the entire point of going with a OM617 is for the superior WVO characteristics of this engine. If you aren't planning to go with WVO, a ubiquitous Chevy 350 would be a far better and easier choice. There are a lot of OM617 turbo diesels around that have outlived the bodies that they were shipped in. They are excellent engines - and so far the best WVO engines by far. The question should be "Why NOT go with WVO?".

Don't even start to talk about engine abuse - aren't you the same guy that played around with cut delivery valves, modified IPs, bigger turbos and a host of other "abusive" mods? Not that I condemn you for it - it's been interesting to see what kind of performance you can get out of that engine!

Great news!! I can't wait to do mine... :c:

Being able to withstand abuse better is not a quality.

Well,

1: Its illegal.
2: You can't drive on our roads.
3: As said before, its extremely harmful to the engine.

Incorrect. Performance modifications do not involve pumping an acidic chemical thats 10% garbage through the engine.

Has anyone converted a s-10 to a diesel platform?:argh:

I said characteristic, but let's not argue the little details.

1. Illegal? More likely it is "grey area" and if you pay the taxes, it is considered completely legal in several states. My state didn't even consider pursuing it when I asked them about it.

2. So far I've had no trouble at all driving on any roads powering various vehicles with WVO. It has worked great.

3. Only if it is done improperly. A lot of people seem to do it improperly and they often have problems. Others are capable of figuring out how to make it work and drive for hundreds of thousands of miles without issue (and are still going strong). I've talked to several people that were able to destroy their diesels while burning diesel - usually through excessive idling. I've actually had more damage done with a tankful of diesel/water bought from a convenience store.

Acidic? Why would you pump an acidic chemical with garbage in it through your engine? This is misinformation that you are spreading. Perhaps you should consider some additional research into this matter.

Hey - wouldn't modifying your exhaust and EGR systems be considered "illegal"? Doing so means you cannot drive that vehicle on "our" roads. There isn't anything like performance modifications for doing harm to an engine... Whatever happened to those concerns?:moon:

Your concerns here are valid, but they have been addressed countless times by many people and resolutions for all of them have been found.

This thread is about OM617 into a jeep wrangler.

WVO is the shit! My reason of going WVO is because i dont' want to support the petroleum companies if i don't have to. they have been taking money from me forever. Back in 2008 a gallon of gas was $4.50+ that hurted my wallet. I was looking for alternate source of transportation and or fuel/electricity. I found out that my diesel could run on Veggie oil.

I never thought about it being illegal, or pumping acid through my system or any of those thoughts. I was just thinking about finances and when money is tight, i seek free used vegetable oil to provide me fuel to move around. I have been using WVO and veggie alternatively for almost 2 years now. i dont' have any problem what so ever with my engine. There is a little bit of inconvenience of picking up used oil and doing the processing. sometimes, i just buy 5 gallon deep fryer oil and just run it directly.

wvo + om617 + Jeep wrangler = awesome wrangler :c:

You are the man!I got the Cherokee for this swap 4 years ago, ouch! Life happened, but I finally got the engine over the summer, as soon as I have the money I'll get a kit or two, a 5 speed in my 300sd would make a world of difference!



As far as milege claims, I drive a 1982 300sd daily, it weighs the same as a 300d due to aluminum hood and trunk, and a few other parts, icky slushbox, I get a fairly consistant 24mpg in mixed driving, sometimes 23 or 25, best tank was a road trip at a touch over 29, looks like 65-70mph = 32mpg

you can use a ford t18 trans and transfer case with $25 worth of machine work and no adapter plates. But you have to use a hyd throwout bearing

Thats interesting idea, but the whole idea on this build was to be able to retain the stock drive train.

FTE or jeep-dsl, I am interested in more info and possibly pics of the over-boost valve conversion used to operate the vacuum fuel shutoff. I think it's a cool idea!

I too am in the middle of a 82 300sd swap into a 89 Wrangler. One big positive for me is running a two tank WVO self made kit in the soon to be completed swap. I haven't fabbed a WVO kit yet still working out the details. On drawback to this Wrangler is it's an automatic and I really want a AX-15 5 speed. If I convert to 5 speed will the AX-15 bolt up to my T-case?

jeep-dsl I will be buying an adapter kit from you soon!

Wow...I suppose that a realization that Rudolph Diesel actually manufactured his engine to run on PEANUT OIL is lost on this guy. I'd go even further to suggest that he's totally in the dark regarding LUBRICITY....and a working knowledge that WVO is loaded with NATURAL lubricity, where petroleum diesel has to be infused with an un-natural lubricity....

A little reading and knowledge is not a bad thing.

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A word of caution:
One fellow out here in Va actually got a batch of WVO where the mom'n'pop chinese restaurant had hired a new guy who tossed the recent oven-cleaning solution into the WVO barrel. When the fellow out here picked it up and ran it thru--- it did what degreasers do. It stripped his internal lubrication and siezed the engine. KNOW YOUR WVO SUPPLIER!!

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More info? I have serious concerns about the use of the AX-15 with diesel torque.

The AX-15 is pretty solid - putting Cummins-level torque behind it might be asking for problems, but an OM617 shouldn't be that hard on it. A well massaged 350 puts out an easy 400 lb-ft if you want it to and an AX-15 can handle that.

Good to know. I'm more familiar with the AW-4, and I've seen V8 HP and bigger than stock torque put thru them, but I have an AX-5 in my Comanche-framed M998-bodied replica.
I've known that an AX-15 is the upgrade for the AX-5, but wasn't familiar with HOW MUCH it would upgrade.

I'm familiar with the T-18/NP435 trannies, as well as their downside -- they're actually 3 driving speeds with a granny low crawler gear. Not really ideal for fuel consumption savings.

Jeep-dsl, you are one of my heroes. Great job with the conversion. I want one; will call on Monday.
Rab475, could you please elaborate a little on your t18 idea.
The rest of you, thanks for all the gearing info and other constructive idea. I am actually considering starting with a conversion of my 82 SD to a manual transmission. The search for ideas is what led to you site, guys, which I am grateful for. I measured the distance between the shifter square opening from an early 240d with a manual and it came to 33 inches from back of engine to shifter opening and 29 inches from back of flywheel to shifter opening.
What 5 speed would you guys think might fit in there, considering the relative thickness of an adapter plate? I might go with jeep-dsl plate, but remains to be known, whether it will fit or not. Judging by the position of the square shift opening, the potential transmission could be slightly longer, for my own personal preference, hence more than 33 inches, with some well cutting, off course!
Any input would be highly appreciated.
Regarding the use of veggie; we need to accept the fact that it might produce carbon deposits, which might, in turn, interfere with the normal friction of engine parts. Thinking that low tech veggie would outperform years of advancement in lubrication technology might be overly hopeful. Driving for free, temporarily, is priceless.
There is also an offset of emissions; one beneficial and one harmful! Nox vs. …!
Jeep-dsl, please see if you could give me the dimension between back of the OM and shifter.
Tx to all.
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FTE,
Do you know what your RPMs are when doing 65MPH?
I'm running 35"s w/4.56 gears = approx 2900 RPMs

I'm contemplating dropping down to 4.10 gears.

BTW,
The other day I calculated my MPG, got 20 on the highway....and that was with a leaky delivery valve (didn't notice the leak, until the following day) :p

need to source those copper washers.

No, I don,t have a tac but with the converter locked up I think it is @ 2500 or so, unlock the converter and it increases about 300-500 rpm. Drop it down into 3rd and it will run 65-70 no prob, but it is starting to run out of its power band, so I think it is real close to it's sweet spot. Best mpg with this setup is 31 freeway only 250 mile pt A-B. This is acurate, I have made this trip numerous times and get the same #'s. In town mixed I get 24-26 consistanty, driving it like I stole it. I think a more "street friendly" 29 in tire would gain me a few extra mpg's, but I'm cheap and will wear these mud tires out first! I think all you need is an od trans and you will be happy.

What did you have to do for exhaust to pass PA inspection? Did you ever get your prints made?

Just made pipe from manifold to muffler, we took cat converter out. Passed at 2 different inspection stations.

Just had to post these pics of host Ian Johnson of Extreme 4x4 show who came to see our jeeps at PA Jeeps of all breeds show, it was crazy he was really cool to talk with.. :rocking:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1088355...8/PaJeeps2012#

im sorry to bring up an old thread but im in the process of putting together my parts list for a 1989 jeep cherokee conversion using these converters and was wondering
1. what you did for power steering
2. " "alternator
and any kind of performance mods to help with the take off of the om617 motor because i know they are dogs

thanks for any and all help

Hey Mr. Manny,

I've found these gear ratio calculator programs helpful.

Gear Ratio Calculator

On another note, where did you get you FJ inspected? I'm nearing the finish on my Jeep conversion and I'm wondering if one referee inspection or another is better. I'm in Nor. Cal.
thx
HC