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Bosshawg600 07-30-2010 02:53 AM

DT466 Pulling truck Build
 
Ok, so I didnt know were to put this, I thought Sled Pulling Forum, but it would just get lost in the general babble.......

Anyways, I bought a 93 Dodge Ext Cab DRW to build into a puller. I got the 1st gen just due to the fact that you dont see too many out there.

Well, Ive had some downtime on it lately doing some other things and trying to find a good frame and drivetrain to start with. Anyways, this downtime has given me a ton of thinking time!!! So I got to thinking....to make my truck even more differnt...Im throwing around the idea of throwing a DT466 in the 1st gen and go pulling for fun!!!

As Ive been looking for info (and I have read just about everything I can find!!) there realy isnt that much out there to turn up the wick on a DT466!!!! Im going beyond the avrage free pump upgrades and such and there isnt much more than that.

Now this is strictly a puller for fun, just go out and run the Run What Ya Brung and open classes around the area, and if I get enough meat between my legs, take it to a big show and pull there (Yes I know, Mod Class and Ill get killed...whatever!) but I think it would be cool to see and build! I got a buddy with a decent 3.0 truck that does the same thing, so I guess we can go around together and put on a pretty good show!

My goals are not that lofty just due to the fact my wallett isnt that thick! So Im thinking about the 600-700HP range should make it run down the track pretty good! But how do I get there? Can I use 12v parts that might interchange? Im looking for a 94-97 DT466 so it will have a P pump that Im pretty familiar with, so i hope to turn that up myself.

I dont think I have the coin to go with Hypermax stuff just due to their prices!!! I mean &k for an overborekit??? Ain t gonna happen!!!

All in all, I think If can get 700hp at 4500RPM going down the track....thats a VERY good start!!!



Any help I can get from you guys would be AWESOME......and Better than everywere else Ive tried!!!

powerstroke cowboy 07-30-2010 08:01 AM

The DT466 in the years 94-97 are not P-Pumped. They have the same Kind of injectors as a 7.3L Powerstroke, they just flow a lot more. They have HEUI Injectors. Go with a older DT466 that is macanical. A DT466 In a firt gen Would be sweet:yeah: :choochoo: I would like to do the same thing in a 78 to 79 Ford F-350. O and the DT466 are easy to turn up to 1000+ HP. And you can do it cheaper then a 700 HP 5.9L. Just keep us posted on the Build. And have FUN. :jump:

kmkdiesel 07-30-2010 09:25 AM

most people throw on a p7100 215 pump because they are proven pumps alot easier to adjust and are not as finicky trying to tune, there are 3-4 dt466 pullers here, they all run pretty good but the cummins still beat them in supermod class.

cumminspwrram59 07-30-2010 09:58 AM

if you really wanna be different go with a 8.3 cummins they are mostly found in the ford 8000 series trucks if i remember right they are p-pumped too

J-Pipes 07-30-2010 01:05 PM

If you are set on the DT, try looking for info on pulling tractors. They used the same DT series for alot of years in tractors, just with varrying displacements. I know one local shop that is into the tractor pulling as well as the trucks has 525ci kits for the DT engines. If you want to talk to the guy let me know and I will PM his number, and website. But I still think an 8.3 Cummins would be sweet, I believe it is a member of the B series engine family, so it should be just like working on a 5.9, only bigger:tu:

93_Fummins 07-30-2010 04:53 PM

8.3 is a 6CT...C-series family

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Keep in mind that there are at least 3 DT466 configurations, much like the B series Cummins; a rotary pump model, a P-pump model and the HEUI injection model. The tractor pullers love the P-pump model, and there is MUCH power to be had from them. I know a few guys that pull 1466 IH tractors with highly modified DT466 mills pushing well over 1000 horsepower. Definitely buddy up with some tractor pullers and look for hand-me-down injectors maybe...:w2: Then get some big 'ol turbos and a high pressure water injection system and see what you can pull off! :rocking:

Bosshawg600 07-31-2010 07:02 AM

Im not dead set on a DT....just due the fact that I dont know how Im going to do it. I know i want to go with a P-pump style DT and I can get some decent power out of it.

But my biggest problem with going DT466 is that I have no idea on a trans/t-case set up. Im not too good with the Med and heavy truck trans. stuff so i dont know if I want to go that route. if I can find an adaptor to hook the DT up to an NV4500 Id be set!! But i dont even know if that possible.

I guess I could go with a Fuller or something in that range, but that leaves out a T-case........Its all just a crap shoot.....Then I got to think clutch!!!!!


Im building this just for a fun puller, so i dont care about what class i fit into...Heck the classes around here are just way to crazy now anyways and I dont have the pockets to even break into the top 10!!!


I think it will just be fun to go out, have something cool and differnt, and have fun!!


But if I can just get some big details solved...I think it can be done!

J-Pipes 07-31-2010 09:30 AM

Maybe an SCS reverser box? I think that it actually functions as both the trans and the t-case, I think.

Bosshawg600 07-31-2010 03:19 PM

You got 3 grand you want to donate for just the box? If I buy a drop box and reverser, Ill build a 3.0 truck....which I auctually would like to!

93_Fummins 07-31-2010 05:33 PM

Source a 2-ton divorced t-case from a Deuce or something big, then you'll have big u-joints and everything and you can make equal length driveshafts...just have to have a BEEFY jackshaft between the trans and t-case. Divorced case will also allow for whatever tranny you can source. Most medium duty have higher load rating multi-disc clutchs anyway, so it shouldn't be hard to get some grabby metallic/ceramic button clutch discs to put in and reconfigure the springs for a good clamp on. Then you'll just have to cobble together a good master/slave cylinder assembly for the third pedal so you can release it. Fairly straightforward, and shouldn't break the bank...

Bosshawg600 08-04-2010 06:27 AM

Ok, talked with a guy that has a truck out there doing this right now....Got a TON of info!!!!

Anyways, he built the truck in 08 and used a allison auto for a few pulls then switched to a Spicer CM5552A....he says that trans isnt even close to the weak like...heck even runs a drop box and rockwells with it and it holds up fine/ Plus they are about 250-300 bucks cheaper than an NV4500 but can still use a DD or Triple disc clutch from South Bend!!! Looks like I got my tranny sorted out, now I just have to find one!

As far as a T-case goes, he ran a divorced NP205, but it kept breaking. Im gonna keep an eye out for something or try my luck with a DHD out of the donor truck for now.

As far as motor, about all he has it some good valve springs, a beefed up A Pump and an S480 turbo, and it HAULS!!!!!! Good thing is, he took about 150 pics when he was building the thing, so I can look off there and get over some humps that I havent thought of yet.

So I have settled that I WILL be doing a DT466 conversion on the puller, Now its time to look for parts!!!! Any one need a rust free 97 Ext cab body or a 93 Ext cab 2wd frame.....trade it for a DT motor!!!!

chrapladm 08-10-2010 09:23 AM

WOW ...I was just trying t gather info over the last month or so to see what all I needed to do almost the same build. I was thinking of using a medium duty frame and doing a cab swap though.

What did you decide on for a transfer case?

I would use a fabco but thats just me.

I will be building my truck just for fun and 1/4 mile times. I was wanting to eventually get around 1000+hp. I will be using a Spicer N175 rear end so if I want to have more power way down the road my drivetrain will support it.

I am curious how everyone's farmes are coping with these big diesels. I was going with the medium duty truck frame because if fear of destroying the the frame even with bracing added. PLus I believe a cab swap would be easier to do that a whole drivetrain but I dont know yet.

I will have to look at the spicer 5552 tranny some more. I was thinking I would be using a Eaton FS7206 or 8206 but I will very very slowly be doing my build.

Oh and does anyone know of any others with the 8.3 stuffed in a 3/4 or 1 ton chassis?

I only have started to be sld on the dt466 because they are so many others who have used this engine and there are many to chat with. I have found tons of parts and lots of help from pullers to manufacturers/ BUT when it comes to the 8.3 I haven't fpund many people at all to chat with. I think even the John Deere motors would be an option.

But I look forward to hearing more about the extended cab dually dt466 build.

12vcummins96 08-10-2010 11:00 AM

hey good luck bud:tu::tu::tu::tu::tu::tu:

nevrenufhp 08-10-2010 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by powerstroke cowboy (Post 597059)
The DT466 in the years 94-97 are not P-Pumped. They have the same Kind of injectors as a 7.3L Powerstroke, they just flow a lot more. They have HEUI Injectors. Go with a older DT466 that is mechanical. A DT466 In a first gen Would be sweet:yeah: :choochoo: I would like to do the same thing in a 78 to 79 Ford F-350. O and the DT466 are easy to turn up to 1000+ HP. And you can do it cheaper then a 700 HP 5.9L. Just keep us posted on the Build. And have FUN. :jump:

*The 93-97 466 IS a P-pump in federal emissions(93-95 for CA). The optional 466E started in the late 95 model year.
*The 84-92 had an A-pump or MW-pump. The best being an 89-92, which have aftercooler, roller cam, and big intake opening.
*Then the old rotary pumped units prior to 84. Not much to speak of there.

M1008DT466 10-05-2012 10:41 PM

I put a DT466 in my 81 chevy 1 ton dually.

nevrenufhp 10-05-2012 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by M1008DT466 (Post 945741)
I put a DT466 in my 81 chevy 1 ton dually.

Dont be teasing us by saying it, pictures are a must for any engine swap!

M1008DT466 10-05-2012 10:58 PM

Ok. I just signed up on this sight tonight. Ok I will figure out how to post pictures so you can see.
It was a lot of work. I have a 91 DT466 that I'm putting into my 85 Military M1008 chevy 4x4. That's gonna keep me bussy all winter.

cumminsf150 10-06-2012 01:53 PM

ive never heard "meat between my legs" in reference to horse power:humm:learn somethin everyday...

M1008DT466 10-06-2012 10:10 PM

Can anyone tell me what's the best brand of high performance fuel injectors to install in my 1991 DT466?
It has the Bosch inline pump on it now. Also what's the best high performance Turbo I can buy for it?
I'm new on here and signed up in hopes of getting some help while I install my DT466 in my 85 M1008 chevy truck. It's a Wounded Warrior that got a full restoration after it came back from Afghanistan. I'll put pictures up soon. Thanks

nevrenufhp 10-08-2012 09:22 AM

There's a few places to get injectors, just depends on how much you want. I can get stock, and up to 400hp. Hypermax is good, but pricey, and for any hp rating you want. There's a few other places(cant think of the names), and on pulloff.com you can find used ones.

M1008DT466 10-08-2012 12:46 PM

Thanks (nevrenufhp) I'm gonna check it out. Let me know if you think or any other places. And I want to find a good brand to put a larger turbo on it. And if or suggestions would be much appreciated.

twinturbogarrett 10-12-2012 01:15 AM

all trade a twin turbo set up B1 and B2 bomber for an hx66

mattalex87 11-02-2012 08:27 PM

I have a 1970 IH 1210 pickup, currently it has a 345ci v8 and a 4speed i want to swap it to a mechanical dt466.. What trans should i use? what year engine should i look for? whats the stock hp and tq of that engine? all i want to do is mild truck pulls and have a reliable cool truck? oh and with 4:10 gears, 33in tall tires and a 4speed my top speed isnt great 60mph and the engine is singing id love to be able to go 75/80 on the freeway

twinturbogarrett 11-04-2012 09:34 PM

get a 12valve second gen motor, buy a 160 P-pump, laser cut nozzels and max out the P-pump should be 1200 RPM what mine is pushing. Fass fuel 220 sending 35Psi to the pump. 5x15 injectors. studded and fire ring the head buy a twin turbo set up 64mm and 72mm bambers with 5" exhaust turbo-back. take the blow by tube unhook it from the intake and run it down to the axle more HP. tranny get a nv4500 trans with a south bend dual disk 1300hp. all in all im making 610Hp with 1100L tq.

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and 5K GSK

4662010F250 09-21-2021 12:58 PM

2010 F250 dt466 swapped
 
I’ve been reading these forums on this swap for a year now. Tons of heat info from you guys. Granted some of these forums are old as hell. Jan this year 2021 I started my swap due to a blown motor. It’s been an absolute blast doing it and a pain in the ass. It’s like running track 110m hurdles in high school but they are higher than you thought and you trip and fall and have to overcome. I did overcome and got it into its rough draft formation and drove it around for over a month. The truck is so fun to drive and sounds bad ass. I still have quit a bit of final building stuff to do like new piping for turbo and cooler. And build a new cooler. But ultimately ver pleased with this project especially as a daily.
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