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ducharme 09-03-2017 12:16 AM

6.0 to 12v on a budget
 
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Hey everyone, currently in the middle of an engine swap 2005 6.0 to a 1993 12 valve. It's a long haul due to being a college student, and taking a huge hit from crashing my dd that icbc didn't cover, :argh: buuut it's going. Anyways I've looked around and seemed to find that dieselconversion.com was the best place to get parts from. I'm wanting to check out destroked.com but their parts page hasn't been able to load for me. Does anyone recommend something else? I have researched a fair bit about the swap but still have some questions, hopefully I can find an answer here. For the most part, I'm on a budget hence why I went for a ve instead a ppump. Keep in mind, I'm a newbie at this so, I apologize for the stupid questions in advance, haha. :humm:
Questions:
- Do the drive shafts need to be modified?
- There's no a/c from the 12v, and because I want it on the road asap - I was skipping the a/c until next summer, so because there won't be a/c for a while - can I get away with using the stock manifold?
- On dieselconversion.com I can only find 94-98 intercooler tubes, will these still work for the 93?
- If I use these intercooler tubes, they are said to be designed for the DSC manifolds, but again, I'm wondering if I can get away with a stock manifold.
- Lastly (for now haha), do I need to upgrade the air system?

I'm open for all advice, help, or opinions - as this is a huge project for me, totally a diesel newbie. :pca1: Thanks!

u2slow 09-04-2017 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by ducharme (Post 1135329)
Hey everyone, currently in the middle of an engine swap 2005 6.0 to a 1993 12 valve. It's a long haul due to being a college student, and taking a huge hit from crashing my dd that icbc didn't cover, :argh: buuut it's going.

As I understand it, you need/want the 3rdgen style ex manifold to clear the Superduty's HVAC system - thats with AC or without.

On the transmission side, I think you'll get into a costly can of worms with the auto. It may be an idea to consider a ZF5 swap. They're a cheap trans to pickup used vs a NV4500 or ZF6.

I like this particular thread because it he skirted around buying fancy conversion pieces:
https://www.dieselbombers.com/diesel...onversion.html

dieselrick 10-03-2017 07:40 PM

First of all bud, I'm certain Canada has very similar certification laws similar to US such as you can install a newer certified engine(gas or diesel) in an older vehicle but not vice versa. Engine being installed must be certified for model year of vehicle or newer and why the hell would you want to use a 93 engine? The injection pumps are junk and rated at 160/400, you're losing a ton of HP & Tq compared to even a 6.0.

u2slow 10-04-2017 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by dieselrick (Post 1136236)
First of all bud, I'm certain Canada has very similar certification laws similar to US such as you can install a newer certified engine(gas or diesel) in an older vehicle but not vice versa. Engine being installed must be certified for model year of vehicle or newer and why the hell would you want to use a 93 engine? The injection pumps are junk and rated at 160/400, you're losing a ton of HP & Tq compared to even a 6.0.

Each province has its own vehicle rules. BC doesn't have mandatory annual inspections (safety or emissions) for light vehicles... so I don't know if you'd ever get spanked for the wrong engine in your pickup.

I happily sold my 95 and 97 Powerstrokes to get into these old VE-pumped cummins trucks. Waaay less headaches, more reliable, and still really cheap to crank extra power out of.

dieselrick 10-05-2017 04:59 PM

No inspection when registration issued, if no, good for you. I'd still try to use a 96-98 p-pump engine. I have a ZF adapter I'm trying to sell made of plate steel and mfg by the only company to team up with CECO to make repower kits. Requires a Dodge flywheel and special starter and mods inside of bell housing. Stock manifold will work fine. 93 Dodge didn't have A/C? Your powerstroke intercooler has 3" hoses and the OBS Dodge connections are 2-1/2". Just remember the basics, measure the engine angle, measure from crossmember or other point to crankshaft centerline, those are your starting points that need to stay constant and need to be retained. When I worked for Cummins in Albuquerque, I was in charge of quoting and dressing engines for repower requests. Everybody just tosses them in as is out of a Dodge and then wonder why they would burn them down 1st time they hauled something. By spec, Ford & GM had different fan drives, exhaust manifolds, etc. If you want to know more, let me know. Everything you need is available thru Cummins.


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