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brokensmokin 09-12-2014 10:16 AM

2011 duramax no start
 
bought a 2011 duramax last week and I'm having some problems. the truck won't start unless i give her a shot of either. i know i know don't use either! but once i give her a shot of it she starts right up and runs great but if i shut it off she won't start back up. I've replaced the injection pump with a brand new one from gm and still the same problem.i look and my scanner and it isn't building the pressure that the computer is commanding but as soon as i give her a shot of either she starts and has no problem holding the pressure commanded.
I've talked to a few people and they say that she needs injectors.
iv checked for code and i don't have any except for a glow plug. now before i did the injection pump i had a low rail pressure code but i don't seem to have it after i replaced the pump.
any ideas??? any and all help would be appreciated!

2004LB7 09-12-2014 04:12 PM

you need to do a fuel return rate test. this would tell you where to go from there

Just-Another-Dieselguy 09-12-2014 04:17 PM

sounds like injectors are having issues, if they are just letting fuel pass through it can not build enough pressure while cranking. i am not up on duramax fuel systems to much, is there an orifice in the return to keep pressure up? sorry thats all i have to offer man good luck and let us know??:tu:

WarriorWEAPONS9 07-21-2015 11:18 PM

there a recall call on the rail about pressure or something i cant remember off the top of my head i got it the mail the other day. look in to that see if that helps.

jwittea 09-01-2015 06:15 PM

Pull each injector return line one at a time and crank. If there is more then just a small spit coming from an injector, its returning too much. Usually when an injector is bad it will be a steady stream of fuel coming from the top of the injector fuel return.

Jmrobinson 12-07-2015 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by brokensmokin (Post 1073144)
bought a 2011 duramax last week and I'm having some problems. the truck won't start unless i give her a shot of either. i know i know don't use either! but once i give her a shot of it she starts right up and runs great but if i shut it off she won't start back up. I've replaced the injection pump with a brand new one from gm and still the same problem.i look and my scanner and it isn't building the pressure that the computer is commanding but as soon as i give her a shot of either she starts and has no problem holding the pressure commanded.
I've talked to a few people and they say that she needs injectors.
iv checked for code and i don't have any except for a glow plug. now before i did the injection pump i had a low rail pressure code but i don't seem to have it after i replaced the pump.
any ideas??? any and all help would be appreciated!

My brother bought one brand new and went through 4 rails! 4 of them under warranty in 6 months and finally traded it off knowing gm wouldn't fix it

Don't know if there is an aftermarket rail that doesn't suck but if there is even its not your problem start saving for one. It ran awesome and got good milage but the factory rails and factory replacements are the worst rails ever made period. End of discussion .

2004LB7 12-08-2015 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by Jmrobinson (Post 1104022)
My brother bought one brand new and went through 4 rails! 4 of them under warranty in 6 months and finally traded it off knowing gm wouldn't fix it

Don't know if there is an aftermarket rail that doesn't suck but if there is even its not your problem start saving for one. It ran awesome and got good milage but the factory rails and factory replacements are the worst rails ever made period. End of discussion .

I have never heard of the fuel rails ever needing to be replaced on the duramax. May want to recheck that one

Jmrobinson 12-08-2015 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by 2004LB7 (Post 1104026)
I have never heard of the fuel rails ever needing to be replaced on the duramax. May want to recheck that one

Nope. Some check valve or something on the rail kept going out. And they says there was nothing that should have been causing it. (but they worked at a stealership) and may have been waiting for warranty to run out to hit him with a bill

But yep went through a rail like clockwork about every 8k miles

2004LB7 12-08-2015 11:28 AM

What year truck was this?

Jmrobinson 12-08-2015 12:02 PM

Bought brand new it was a 13 model

2004LB7 12-08-2015 01:10 PM

Well that would make it an LML with the controversial CP4 pump. Thay have a higher failure rate then the CP3 but not that bad. Thay fail quickly with any contamination such as gas in the fuel.

Ether he was abusing it or he got a lemon. In any case, it does not mean the duramax is is junk or a bad engine. Far from it

Jmrobinson 12-08-2015 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by 2004LB7 (Post 1104060)
Well that would make it an LML with the controversial CP4 pump. Thay have a higher failure rate then the CP3 but not that bad. Thay fail quickly with any contamination such as gas in the fuel.

Ether he was abusing it or he got a lemon. In any case, it does not mean the duramax is is junk or a bad engine. Far from it

Well he certainly didn't abuse it by any means. It was the junkiest duramax I've ever seen. My other brother had an lmm and ran it with a bullydog on extreme for just over 100k miles and never had any problem other than axle shafts and tie rod ends most mechanically sound motor I've ever been around and he ran about the last 15k miles on a failing vgt that did some wacky shit while driving but that truck could not be killed

callmefisch 07-06-2016 01:25 PM

2011-2015 have cp4 pump that are bad about coming apart and putting metal in the lines, fuel rail, and injectors. Have a 2012 in gm shop now waiting for a change out of all that is a complete package, under warranty. Truck has 88297 miles warranty for drive train goes to 100000 miles and end of next year. Gm service just needs the last 8 of vin. and mileage to look up if under warranty. out of warranty parts are 4500.00 and over 30 hours labor. :argh::scare2:

Troysalm71 01-06-2017 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by brokensmokin (Post 1073144)
bought a 2011 duramax last week and I'm having some problems. the truck won't start unless i give her a shot of either. i know i know don't use either! but once i give her a shot of it she starts right up and runs great but if i shut it off she won't start back up. I've replaced the injection pump with a brand new one from gm and still the same problem.i look and my scanner and it isn't building the pressure that the computer is commanding but as soon as i give her a shot of either she starts and has no problem holding the pressure commanded.
I've talked to a few people and they say that she needs injectors.
iv checked for code and i don't have any except for a glow plug. now before i did the injection pump i had a low rail pressure code but i don't seem to have it after i replaced the pump.
any ideas??? any and all help would be appreciated!

Did this pump being a cp4 ever explode by chance? Have you ever had problems with it?


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