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Excessive pressure in cooling sytem... head gasket, injector cup seal?

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Old 03-07-2011, 11:51 AM
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the Kit I used was supposed to work for both, didnt work with mine...... there are diesel specific fluids, depending on the kit

we put the fluid up to the exhaust with the truck running, it changed, but did nothing with the air bubbling thru it on the degas bottle, this is why I say that the test is not always definitive, the only SURE way to test is pressure test the cylinders
 
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:04 PM
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I bought a block test kit from NAPA auto parts it showed the fluid change color on mine just sat the tube with the fluid on top the surge tank let the truck run for alittle. Yeah I have a 01 lb7 just had the head gasket repair done few months ago. Sucks... More than likely the issue.
 
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:01 PM
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To clear something up in regards to the Combustion gas tester....
All engines produce one main gas:CO2, Just like you held that tester up to the exhaust (where CO2 Exits ) , the blown head gasket would allow compressed gases to enter the cooling system if the leak was from the cooling jackets between the head and block and compression gases would work their way from the combustion chamber to the cooling tank creating excess pressure and the release of exhaust gases from the cooling system. If your cooling system is being pressurized this is the most likely one, consider this, A LB7's minimum compression should be aprox. 2069KPA or 300PSI compared to a vehicle cooling system rated at or around 14PSI. Which is why I'm so Confident if there was a leak between the combustion chambers and cooling system large enough to pressurize the coolant tank above the 14PSI (IIRC) rated cap that there would be combustion gases showing up on this test. There are some reasons for a false negative test. You can still have a blown headgasket and this test not indicate a failure, but most likely the gasket failure was not in the cooling jacket.
1: Failure to drive vehicle at operating temps for atleast 20 min prior to testing.
2: Failure to catch a small amount of color change (any change at all indicates further inspection needed)
3: Not completing enough pumps on the bulb
4: Too much coolant not allowing collection of the gases in the tank. (rare)

With that said, I have a little problem with the concept of multiple test fluids, and not doubting that you've seen them ( I have not), But in theory these test all work the same, By detecting small amounts of combustion gases, primarily CO2. All vehicles produce CO2 and CO2 is the same regardless of the fuel that produces it. It's a by product of combustion therefore combustion engines produce it So with that said I'm having a hard time understanding why there would be multiple fluids. Hopefully someone will step in thats had some experience with this area.

For those wondering about testing for blown head gaskets with this method.

It's an extremely easy, Inexpensive and fast way to determine if CO2 is entering the cooling system. Note I didnt say a Blown head gasket! This is only to alert a trained tech or mechanical minded vehicle owner to a problem or to lead them in the direction of a customer complaint. This is not a tell all, more diagnostics are still needed to determine the actual cause of the problem. Without further diagnostics theres a good possibility that you would be guessing what was wrong with your vehicle when repairs start instead of knowing what was wrong!
 

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Old 03-08-2011, 12:32 PM
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Like i said, the fluid did not work on my cooling system, but a cylinder pressure test DID! cylinder #2(front drivers side) revealed that it would not hold pressure, once the heads were off we found 4 holes had blown the fire rings
 
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:44 PM
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I agree with the statements in regards to the test methods above the only true way to get a good idea with the problem is to take it in or if have the resources and get a pressure test on the cylinders I did one of the fluid tests for mine but had a pressure test before final action was taken. Also don't consider one of those gasket sealer kits that claim to fix a leak read where guys used it and messed up there sh#t doing so.
 
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