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kayakguy7 03-15-2012 05:50 PM

No fuel
 
i have a 1996 chevy silverado 2500 that has a new lift pump, sending unit & tank. It does not have fuel coming out of the air release valves. It does not have the same click it did before, but does have a faint click. What are the possibilities?

great white 03-16-2012 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by kayakguy7 (Post 871877)
i have a 1996 chevy silverado 2500 that has a new lift pump, sending unit & tank. It does not have fuel coming out of the air release valves. It does not have the same click it did before, but does have a faint click. What are the possibilities?


When you say "click", what is "clicking"?

The lift pump? The relay? etc....

Also, you say air release valves. You only have to open the black plastic valve on the top of the filter to bleed air. This allows the fuel to fill the FM and purge the air from the top, just where you would want to purge air from. The "T-valve" is actually the water drain for the FM and "bleeds" from the bottom of the FM, which is contrary to what you're trying to do; bleed out the air....

No fuel from the water drain is useful info though, it means you're not getting any fuel at all to the filter manager.

But, until there's more info to go on, I'll go for the "standard answer" to these type of problems:

1. Fuse

2. Grounds

Since you're OBDII, the Oil Pressure Switch shouldn't be a factor as the PCM will trigger the lift pump if the OPS is bad. The OPS is (for the most part) redundant for lift pump operation on an OBDII truck. The OPS will run the lift pump until it is "craps out", then the PCM senses the lift pump is not running and triggers the LP relay itself. Heck of a lot of redesign work when they just could have put a better OPS in the truck in the first place......or used the OPS to trigger a properly sized relay with the 12v feed to the pump. Meh......I guess it was cheaper to rework the programming and add some wire to the harness than design and build a new OPS or circuit......

There's a long shot possibility that your filter manager screen is clogged solid, but I've never seen one so bad that it won't flow at all. I've had one that light wouldn't shine through and it still flowed fuel. I'd estimate 90-95% of the time the FM screen has been removed with a previous filter change and missed on re-installation anyways, so it's entirely likely yours is already MIA if you can't find one in your FM....

The other possibility is the pick up tube strainer, commonly referred to as the tank "sock".

:pca1:

kayakguy7 03-18-2012 01:57 PM

Thank you, I will look into it & see if I can give you more info.

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I changed the filter when I bought the truck. Where is the filter manager at?

great white 03-18-2012 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by kayakguy7 (Post 872721)
Thank you, I will look into it & see if I can give you more info.

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I changed the filter when I bought the truck. Where is the filter manager at?

The filter manager is the housing the fuel filter is in.

"filter manager" is the name stanadyne uses for it because it houses the filter, screen, water and air bleeds, the WIF sensor and the fuel heater....


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kayakguy7 03-18-2012 05:48 PM

Ok, so I can pull it apart & clean it. I did have dirty fuel in it before it stopped running. I had put in some used fryer oil blended with kerosene & the truck quit while pouring it in. I dropped the tank, cleaned it changed the lift pump & sprayed deep creep into the turbo to start it up. I drove it for a while then no fuel. there was particles in the oil. It could have plugged the screen. the "sock" was falling apart & could have the screen flakes with oil crud in it. I will look there. Thanks.

great white 03-18-2012 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by kayakguy7 (Post 872809)
Ok, so I can pull it apart & clean it. I did have dirty fuel in it before it stopped running. I had put in some used fryer oil blended with kerosene & the truck quit while pouring it in. I dropped the tank, cleaned it changed the lift pump & sprayed deep creep into the turbo to start it up. I drove it for a while then no fuel. there was particles in the oil. It could have plugged the screen. the "sock" was falling apart & could have the screen flakes with oil crud in it. I will look there. Thanks.

Well, that's important info that would have been good earlier.

If you haven't already changed the filter for a new one, you should do it now....The main filter (in the FM) is a 5 micron filter (or a 10 micron depending on whose specs you accept) and cruddy wvo will plug it up pretty quick if the wvo hasn't been properly processed.


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kayakguy7 03-18-2012 08:11 PM

thanks

kayakguy7 03-26-2012 03:00 PM

It has a fuel loss from time to time. it has a new fuel lift pump, fuel sending unit, fuel filter, fuel relay, the fuel filter housing has been cleaned. I took the line off the fuel out put of the lift pump and turned the key on & it sounded like it was sucking air, it had air in the filter cap also. What could be the problem?

great white 03-26-2012 03:18 PM

Your last description makes it sound like you have an air leak downstream from your lift pump.

Possible causes are a poor connection, deteriorated rubber line or a rusted line with a pinhole....

kayakguy7 03-26-2012 03:25 PM

Thank you, I will look into it. I guess I need to drop tank again to find it. Will do.


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