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Daves1997express 12-21-2012 11:02 PM

green antifreeze to pink
 
im wondering if you can change the coolant or convert the coolant on my 1997 express from the green to the pink? the reason im asking is i keep loosing coolant out of my overflow tank from the cap drain hose and the coolant on the pink is a closed system.. when the truck runs it builds pressure to around 15 pounds but i lose coolant when i drive the van down the highway for more than 20 miles but doesnt do it when im driving 30+ miles in the city. anybody got any ideas? :humm:

Turbine Doc 12-22-2012 01:40 PM

color of antifreeze has no bearing on consumption on open or closed system, problem with green in your truck depending who/when the switch was made, did they do a proper flush, your van came with Dex-cool orange from GM if mixed with standard green or improperly flushed they are not compatable. I suspect a mechanical issue causing the loss, have you checked for water in oil? External leaks from heater connections, or weep hole in waterpump? if no mechanical external leaks foum possibly a leaking head gasket from improper mixing of coolant types in the past.

Daves1997express 12-22-2012 02:05 PM

the truck has green in it and it being a titled 1997 but build in 1996 it would have came with green, it has a new water pump new thermostates new bypass hose for heater and im not seeing a leak other than the hose from the overflow tube from the tank, i have replaced the caps twice in 2 weeks and still lose it from tank. when i put a pressure test on system i just hook it up and let the truck run and it builds up between 15 and 17 pounds after runing for about 15 min

Turbine Doc 12-22-2012 02:58 PM

May have had green but I suspect Dex was what it would have had as last quarter 95 is when I think the swap to Dex started be that as it may, color of the coolant is not a contributor to your lost coolant, more questions than answers rite now.

Did you get a Diesel cap?

you say 15-17 psi @ idle ? what is your ECT at this time.

That high a psi in such a short time is odd to me, possibly on verge of overheating ?, I struggle to get mine to 170+F in 15 minutes of idle when setting up for a TDCO learn which requires temps above 170F.

Daves1997express 12-22-2012 03:06 PM

the temp is around 190 i have removed the factory cooling fan and switched to an electric fan along with the oil and trans no longer run thru the radiator and as for the cap i got the one recommended by the parts store

Turbine Doc 12-22-2012 03:37 PM

You are seeing 190F @ idle ??? what temps are you seeing while driving ?

Bad idea electric fan, also bad idea no cooling of trans & engine oil through rad if not rad how are you cooling those ?

AC Delco for 6.5 Diesel is only rad cap you should be running.

Daves1997express 12-22-2012 03:46 PM

im seeing 190 at idle after sitting for 30 min and i have a 16 inch 2500 cfm electric fan for the radiator that has a 200 temp switch in the waterpump plug that turns it on and off. i have a 10 inch electric 600cfm fan for the oil and a 12 inch 750 cfm fan for the trans . the oil fan comes on at 180 and the trans comes on at 180 and why is an electric fan a bad idea?

racer55 12-23-2012 06:53 PM

Electric fans can't move enough air to effectively cool a 6.5.

Even with the very best mechanical fans/clutches/waterpumps the cooling of a 6.5 is marginal.

As said coolant loss due to over pressure is has no bearing on coolant type,compression in the cooling system from a blown head gasket,cracked head or cracked block,or a stuck shut thermostat(s) is the most likely cause of the problem or a bad rad cap.

Daves1997express 12-23-2012 07:17 PM

i havent had my temp go over 2 lines below the 210 line ever. i installed the electric fans over the summer and installed the remote coolers on the trans and oil then as well and the truck is curb weighted at around 14.780 pound. we also pull a 16 foot trailer with it that holds a kabota bx25 . i had the injector pump replaced around 2 months ago and have been adding a little coolant ever since then. i replaced the water pump and thermostates on thanksgiving day as the waterpump starting making noise and didnt want to wait till winter was full blown to have the waterpump go out. the tailpipe blows no white smoke and theres no bubbles in the overflow tank so can see it being a head gasket,block or head problem but at the same time im not seeing any coolant anywhere :humm:

racer55 12-23-2012 07:44 PM

What did you use for thermostats?
AC Delco or Robert Shaw are the only reliable stats available-all others do not operate properly in these engines-Delco are the first choice for all parts for these trucks.

Daves1997express 12-23-2012 07:54 PM

they were stant 195 thermostats installed, i had a buddy giving me a hand and he said he picked up the stants at advanced auto and put them in there along with the rad cap im not having an overheating problem im just losing coolant after driving on the highway for 20+ miles

racer55 12-23-2012 08:50 PM

Get your cap pressure tested,and consider changing the stats again-stants are a known problem in a 6.5.

Daves1997express 12-23-2012 08:57 PM

i think im going to a chevy dealer and get me an actual gm rad cap and stats rather than dimestore parts.. thanks for the help all and have a great Christmas :hellox:

acesneights1 01-01-2013 07:53 PM

Start the truck cold. Grab the upper rad hose. If it gets hard right away you got problems. Rad cap ain't gonna fix that and your van should have had Dexcool. Someone probably mixed green and it deteriorated the HG. Or worse.

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Also not sure how easy you can see in a van overflow but if it looks like this...Not good...

Daves1997express 01-01-2013 08:03 PM

my upper rad hose is the metal flex line as i added a second alternator on the right and the factory hose was to short.but when i was replacing the thermostates this weekend with gm oem replacements i found the flex line where it connects to the thermostat houseing was leaking and going into the valley pan because the shop that did the fuel injector pump didnt tighten it all the way and i had it running with the dog house cover off and was checking for leaks and found it leaking there. now all i have to do i replace the crank sensor and get it back on the road and see what it does from there.

acesneights1 01-01-2013 08:13 PM

What's the overflow look like ? Not sure on a van. is your overflow got just a non pressure cap or is the overflow pressurized as part of the cooling ?

Daves1997express 01-01-2013 08:17 PM

pressurized part of the system..i also got a cap from the dealer when i got the oem thermostates

acesneights1 01-01-2013 08:21 PM

if yuo can look in there with it running with the cap off see if you see bubbles. I would not want to have to do HG's on a van...oyyy....:nope:

Daves1997express 01-01-2013 08:31 PM

no bubbles in the tank and im positive i found the leak on the line going to the thermostate housing but ill have to replace the crank sensor so i can get it started and drive it around to see how it runs..and people are saying that having an electric fan on there is a bad idea not sure how as it runs cool even in the summer heat

acesneights1 01-01-2013 08:46 PM

Do you tow with the van ?
No electric fan will ever pull more air than the engine driven fan. The only issues were that there is so much crap stacked in front of the rad that the bi metal strip on hte fan clutch doesnt always work properly even with recalibrated ones. I have seen guys with 6.5 trucks that had no a/c and no condesor tow real heavy even with the earlier cooling systems and never have an issue and I have had every mod and ran hot.
2500 cfm is a fart in the wind compared to what the engine driven will pull.

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The factory engine driven fan pulls about 10,000 cfm.

Daves1997express 01-01-2013 08:47 PM

truck is curb weighted at around 14.780 pound. we also pull a 16 foot trailer with it that holds a kabota bx25 and it doesnt run all the time. i mounted an led on the dash that lets me know when its on and it takes awhile for it to come on and doesnt run that long before it shuts off. iv driven over 20 miles before it kicks on and when it does is because i have hit the city and the traffic lights


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