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redrocket9793 06-17-2011 07:34 PM

diesel/automotive school
 
any guys on here go to uti, lincon, wyotech, ect... and hav it work out like get a return on the money you paid for the schooling

Begle1 06-17-2011 11:51 PM

I went to UTI. If you aren't on the GI bill or have some other program paying for it, you'd be better off doing anything else.

Cummins97 06-18-2011 12:12 AM

I'm currently in NADC (Nashville auto diesel college) which was bought by Lincoln educational services. We still get the NADC name till August then they start changing the contracts to Lincoln.

Instructors know their stuff and teach you a lot of things that the book don't tell you. It was a great place but now were seeing a lot of the Lincoln coming out now and honestly it isn't good. They're cutting out workbooks and not replacing them with new, therefore we just wing it in the shop for the most part. There is prolly 40% shop per class with some classes being up to 75% shop, so you get a lot of hands on.

I am gonna be paying around 25K in the end for it all. Plus housing which is $450 a month out of pocket for me, some get it in their loans.

Over all I'm happy with what I've learned so far. Could've been better, but that's the case most everywhere.

Would I go here again now that it's Lincoln? I highly doubt it...

Also, Nashville crime rate is rediculous!! :scare2:



Oh yea, on the did it pay off.... I'll let you know September 13th :)

prison 06-18-2011 12:19 AM

im goin to wyotech. they're a pain to deal with. they don't call when they say they're gonna and since they didnt call me i was already kicked out and reinstated once. kind of a pain but i cant speak on the school itself at the moment

joebob3093 06-18-2011 08:30 AM

Re: diesel/automotive school
 
Don't waste your time with any school. Find a shop that will hire you and let you learn on the job. I went to wyotech when I was all done I spent around 35k and still can't find a job in that field.

KD93 06-18-2011 01:58 PM

I haven't been to any of those schools, but there are two instructors at my school who used to work at Lincoln, and my instructor who went for a job there but didn't like the way they did things. Here's what I understand about Lincoln, and from what I gather Wyotech is the same...
Firstly, it's really freakin' expensive. Those schools don't make their money by teaching people, they make their money, (and a lot of it) by FINANCING the people they teach. Not only are the fees high, they will charge you interest etc etc just like a bank. And God help you if you miss a payment.
Secondly, they are backed by industry. That means that in the lab/shop, there are 20 or so brand new engines from, say International, (they may not be, I'm just using that as an example) on stands. Never been run or nothing, straight out of the box. You will go through that engine, strip it down, build it up again, every nut and bolt, and do it from the factory service manual. No grease, no dirt... in other words, nothing like real life. And, you only work on that OEM's engine, no one else's. Which is great if you want to work for the International dealership.
Thirdly, I kind of touched on it already. You will not learn any tricks of the trade, unless your teacher knows his/her stuff. You won't work on real world type problems, or trouble shoot, diagnose and fix anything that isn't covered by the FSM.
Fourth, I have a friend who'se buddy is just finishing up with Lincoln's car program. $35k, and no ASE's. Apparently they do ALL their ASE testing once they've finished the course. I don't know about you, but that's a lot of tests to take all at once. And ASE doesn't test you on one make or model of engine or whatever. I've got 4 ASE's, (should've been 5 but I couldn't afford the 5th one) and I've just finished the course I did in heavy truck and diesel engines. We didn't wait 'til the end, we did whatever tests we were ready for, while the subject matter was still fresh in our minds.

I did my course at a community college. I know a lot of folks look down on them, but to me it's WAY better value for money. $5k as opposed to $35k? Even if you get paid $2 an hour less, (you won't) you will still pay back a loan if you have to get one MUCH faster. To me, the instructors at community colleges are more passionate about teaching and providing the 'community' with quality workers, rather than just churning out students.
My wife, who has a Masters degree, did some of her classes at a CC for that very reason. Why pay 3 times the class-hour rate and get no one-on-one instruction when you can get a better education, because the teachers actually care whether you pass or not, a lot cheaper? And you end up with the same result or better.

I'm sure there are people who have had bad experiences at both types of school. Your best bet is to go and see for yourself what each can do for you, not what you can do for them. A good friend of mine was recently given the hard sell by a private college, and he was basically brainwashed into becoming a psychiatrist, for an exhorbatent fee, even though he has no interest or background in it. They didn't care if he passed or not, they just wanted his money. Beware the hard sell!!! :scare2:

Good luck with whatever you do dude. There's work available for diesel mechanics and it's only going to get better. :tu:

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Originally Posted by Cummins97 (Post 765012)
I'm currently in NADC (Nashville auto diesel college) which was bought by Lincoln educational services. We still get the NADC name till August then they start changing the contracts to Lincoln.

Instructors know their stuff and teach you a lot of things that the book don't tell you. It was a great place but now were seeing a lot of the Lincoln coming out now and honestly it isn't good.

That's a shame, 'cause I've heard that school is/was awesome!

Cummins97 06-18-2011 04:40 PM

That's correct. It is still pretty good at the moment, but is gradually getting worse as they move in. NADC had one hell of a name in this field, but that wont be for long. As everyone already knows, Lincoln is all about money and that's it. Like most other places :dang:

BRE 06-19-2011 07:58 PM

If you have grown up around wrenches and cars and trucks and what not. DO NOT go to lincoln... Biggest mistake of my short life...

redrocket9793 06-20-2011 10:16 PM

thanks guys :c: was gonna go in aug. but got offered a job at a shop and couldnt decide
:c:

McFadin1stgencummins 06-25-2011 02:29 AM

Who the hell can afford 25k ! shoot Im lookin for somethin way less than that. lol :td:

zach_west 06-26-2011 07:54 PM

went to garden city community college through their John Deere program. You come out with a 2 year associate's degree and a guaranteed job. You actually have to be sponsored by a John Deere dealership to go there or they won't accept you. They teach you a good amount and my teachers were very informative and always willing to help. Also we had two 3 month internships that they sent you back to your dealership to work to help pay for school and reinforce what they have taught you. Also they take you on a week trip to visit the john deere factories(and strip clubs in our case) which was pretty awesome. I would suggest it to anybody. Also some dealerships will pay for tools and school if you agree to work for them for x amount of time. I actually get a 2500 dollar a year bonus for 5 years while I work for them.

McFadin1stgencummins 06-27-2011 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by zach_west (Post 767520)
went to garden city community college through their John Deere program. You come out with a 2 year associate's degree and a guaranteed job. You actually have to be sponsored by a John Deere dealership to go there or they won't accept you. They teach you a good amount and my teachers were very informative and always willing to help. Also we had two 3 month internships that they sent you back to your dealership to work to help pay for school and reinforce what they have taught you. Also they take you on a week trip to visit the john deere factories(and strip clubs in our case) which was pretty awesome. I would suggest it to anybody. Also some dealerships will pay for tools and school if you agree to work for them for x amount of time. I actually get a 2500 dollar a year bonus for 5 years while I work for them.

I was really thinkin about doing that I think it would require movin real far away and I dont want that. Ima momas boy lol:jump:

2500HeavyDuty 06-27-2011 03:32 AM

I went to uti, learned some things there. Slept in most of m6 classes, graduated with a 4.0 and perfct scores in multiple courses.

Picked up a local job at the walmart distrobution center, making 23an hour and I have been there 6 months, I am master truck ase certified, and have a five auto. Certifications. Al of those tests i have taken in the past year. Walmart does pay for certs.

Not bad, but not great. I can do much better.

KD93 06-27-2011 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by 2500HeavyDuty (Post 767670)
I went to uti, learned some things there. Slept in most of m6 classes, graduated with a 4.0 and perfct scores in multiple courses.

Picked up a local job at the walmart distrobution center, making 23an hour and I have been there 6 months, I am master truck ase certified, and have a five auto. Certifications. Al of those tests i have taken in the past year. Walmart does pay for certs.

Not bad, but not great. I can do much better.

Reckon you're doing pretty damned good right now. :tu:

zach_west 06-27-2011 06:36 PM

corsicana has a john deere school to. One of the guys I work with was sent there and he's not to bad of a mechanic. They are both 2 year school. I know Caterpillar also has some schools like that. I know for sure of one at South Plains College In Levelland, Tx. Plus you're right by lubbock which happens to have some pretty good looking girls since there's 3 good size colleges in the area. I went down there to visit the school and I liked it, it just happened that John Deere gave me a deal first. I'm not sure if case has one or not. Cat and JD are both 2 year schools with associates degrees. I can try to answer any more questions you might have.

redrocket9793 08-17-2011 06:06 AM

thank you guys i have decided to not attend and will be starting at a freightliner shop here. not 23/hr congrats btw (about 12/hr) but they are paying to get me cummins certified:jump: ill have my own shop bay too:tu: thanks once again and good luck to you guys that did go:c:


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