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Begle1 10-10-2010 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by NadirPoint (Post 634469)
Just a couple definitions regarding cycle riding on the street for those who don't appear to understand what's going on:

Lane Splitting: Carefully threading a 2-wheeled vehicle between lanes at a sane speed so as to not endanger the rider or any other motorists.

Reckless Driving: Riding wheelstands, zipping across lanes and into the opposing lanes at excessive rates of speed, endagering the rider and other motorists.

Extreme Douchebaggery: Opening a door to prevent lane splitting.



Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 634472)
Once a motorcycle almost took out my LARGE F-250 driver side mirror squeezing in between a SUV & my truck, he lost control & wiped out, I almost ran his sorry butt over, I was so mad, that I almost stopped ran up to him & kicked him in the NUTS, but lucky for him I was in a hurry to get to work.

So a motorcyclist almost broke your mirror.... With what? His SPINE? He could've been seriously injured, and you're pissed because of your mirror?

gunman41mag 10-10-2010 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by Begle1 (Post 634497)
Extreme Douchebaggery: Opening a door to prevent lane splitting.




So a motorcyclist almost broke your mirror.... With what? His SPINE? He could've been seriously injured, and you're pissed because of your mirror?

If he would have hit my mirror, I would have to call 911, i would be late to work:dang: Since he didn't hit my mirror, I left & don't know what happened to his butt, he did slide a long way, I was driving at about 60 MPH & he flew past me:scare2:

NadirPoint 10-10-2010 08:51 PM

Extreme stretching of the point: Suggesting reckless driving and lane splitting might be similar or complimentary activities - or even remotely connected in any way whatsoever.

So Begle, are you suggesting this f**ktard is lane splitting or what?

Originally Posted by Begle1 (Post 634320)
Lane splitting is legal in California and it works fine out here.

You might be surprised to hear there's lots of so-called "legal" stuff going on in Commiefornia outsiders seem to find questionable.

7.3 Cowboy 10-10-2010 09:49 PM

I agree with big ed he deserves a door check

Begle1 10-10-2010 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by NadirPoint (Post 634521)
Extreme stretching of the point: Suggesting reckless driving and lane splitting might be similar or complimentary activities - or even remotely connected in any way whatsoever.

So Begle, are you suggesting this f**ktard is lane splitting or what?

You might be surprised to hear there's lots of so-called "legal" stuff going on in Commiefornia outsiders seem to find questionable.

That could be considered "extreme" lane splitting if you want to do so... It is reckless driving. I'm not defending the guy in the video, I'm calling out others for saying that they block lane splitters with their vehicles or doors even when stuck in slow or stopped traffic. The daredevil has the right to lane split, but not to drive recklessly.


I agree with big ed he deserves a door check
What would be the difference between opening your door on him or just driving into his way? Why not just slam on your brakes if somebody's speeding behind you, or pull into an intersection in front of somebody speeding? Why not try to run anybody doing anything illegal off the road? At his high speeds, you'd risk killing or maiming him. That would either be assault or attempted murder depending on how good his lawyer is, even if he was breaking the law at the time.

NadirPoint 10-10-2010 11:16 PM

The problem with the whole idea is it's dangerous no matter how you do it or what you call it. Doors can get opened and cars make sudden moves "not" for the purpose of attacking a cyclist.

Shyt happens. :humm:

Begle1 10-10-2010 11:27 PM

Tires blow, SUV's flip over and small children's decapitated heads land in their mothers' laps. Brakes give out. Linkages get stuck or break. People latch themselves into 4,000 pound vehicles and travel at 80 miles per hour. The whole idea of driving anything is dangerous.

In the case of lane splitting, or most things done on a motorcycle, the risk to the cyclist is much greater than the risk to anybody else. Cyclists have the right to knowingly take that risk to save themselves hundreds of hours a year in commuting time, and save their air cooled bikes from overheating, while not harming anybody else.

People that intentionally open their doors or get in the way of lane splitting cyclists, especially when doing so can injure the cyclist, are putting their vehicle in more danger than it would be otherwise and intentionally putting a cyclist at risk. Whether intention can be proved doesn't matter; it is morally wrong malice.

NadirPoint 10-11-2010 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by Begle1 (Post 634611)
The whole idea of driving anything is dangerous... to save themselves hundreds of hours a year in commuting time.

Hundreds of hours? Pretty otimistic estimate you pulled out your arse there, Begle. So since the simple act of driving at all is in itself inherently dangerous, we should be glad to see a few morons taking steps to make it even more so - just for themselves, of course?

Nevermind, it's Begle logic. I get it. :s:

biged681985 10-11-2010 08:39 AM

lane splitting is one of the few things thats legal in caliornia. just another stupid ass law they have. here it is illegal like it should be. like i said, i wouldnt do it when he is doin 100, but it wouldnt bother me a bit to open the door when he is doin 20.

Begle1 10-11-2010 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by NadirPoint (Post 634641)
Hundreds of hours? Pretty otimistic estimate you pulled out your arse there, Begle. So since the simple act of driving at all is in itself inherently dangerous, we should be glad to see a few morons taking steps to make it even more so - just for themselves, of course?

Nevermind, it's Begle logic. I get it. :s:

How many days do you work in a year, 260? I commute 30 miles each day and spend at least 2 hours in traffic daily, it probably averages around 3. Motorcyclists get the free reign of toll lanes, carpool lanes and are allowed to lanesplit; they can easily save hundreds of hours of time, and plenty of gas. It works great out here, the only complaints I've ever heard about it from native Californians is when the motorcycles have loud pipes, but loud pipes are separately illegal.

Now compare my logic with the logic of the other guy...


Originally Posted by biged681985 (Post 634703)
lane splitting is one of the few things thats legal in caliornia. just another stupid ass law they have. here it is illegal like it should be. like i said, i wouldnt do it when he is doin 100, but it wouldnt bother me a bit to open the door when he is doin 20.


Where is the logic in this? You don't like lane splitting because it's dangerous for the rider, so you open the door on the lane splitter and... Make it more dangerous for the rider... But if the rider was speeding and being more dangerous in the first place, then you wouldn't open the door on the rider, because that'd just be too dangerous.

What reason do you have to go out of your way to prevent motorcyclists from lane splitting? Going out of your way to prevent lane splitting will always be more selfish than lane splitting in the first place.


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