need ideas to help fight a ticket
Well yall I got a ticket for excessive smoke in pearland tx and was lookin for ideas as to how to fight it. Anything will help...
Thanks Jeremy |
if its anything like here in utah then your not going to be able to fight it... the office sited you for it and all you can do is go to court plead not guilty and hope the officer doesn't show up for the hearing in which case they will dismiss the ticket...
Here in utah they send you to a testing center and they look your truck over and if they see mods you pay the fine... |
"uhhhh I didn't know". 60% of the time that works every time.
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im with gijohn go to court and hope the officer doesnt show up...but if you plead "not" guilty that means you can exercise your right to a fair trial in which the judge will have to schedule a jury selection and then schedule a trial session and the officer will have to be present and show some kind of legal proof, in which the judge just might say screw it and throw it out anyways....but if they do give you your trial then you either pay a lawyer or represent yourself with a court appointed one in which if you loose it will get pretty pricey. so all in all i would just stick with hoping the officer doesnt show and if he does then plead no contest and pay the fine in which you are guilty for anyways
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If you could detune your truck so it dosn't smoke bad, drive it to court, plead not guilty and explain how your truck had a bad injector and you went right out and had it fixed. If you knew someone who owns a shop and could get them to dummy up an invoice (dated correctly of course) that would probably be helpful. The judge might dismiss it, or at least be lenient in any penalty. :wack:
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How much was the ticket? And does that kinda ticket carry any points on your insurance?
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I do actully have a bad injector so I'm goin that route I'm gunna de tune the truck to stock when I go. And its 400 bucks and no points bc the ticket goes to the owner and they can't prove I was driving it kinda like red light cams
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Move to California.
Here's it's a $40-60 fix-it ticket that only becomes legal if you smoke for a period longer than 10 seconds straight. :tttt: |
it amazes me that people can't own up to their actions and are willing to commit a felony and perjure themselves to save a few bucks...
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I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but I've never heard of anyone in NY getting a ticket for smoke. Cops here are to bust tryin to bust you for not wearin your seat belt. Free Country:humm:
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Originally Posted by Gerry
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it amazes me that people can't own up to their actions and are willing to commit a felony and perjure themselves to save a few bucks...
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hire a ninja:w2:
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thats a good one DM we need a ninja smiley
or from what I have been told hire Danny he has Super Secret Ninja powers :danny: |
as far as i knew they could only give a warning it must be a city law. But first how long did you emit smoke for approx.
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[QUOTE=tiremann9669;612205]I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but I've never heard of anyone in NY getting a ticket for smoke. Cops here are to bust tryin to bust you for not wearin your seat belt. QUOTE]
I have. Ever heard of J. R. Collins trucking out of Ohio? They have a fleet of Mack dump trucks, and he was truck pull champion a couple times, with the Buckeye Bulldog. ALL his trucks RUN!!! He got a smoke ticket in NY. $2500, and the truck was impounded. They flatbedded it out of state, and had to fix it before returning to NY. He now runs propane to clear up the smoke. |
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Originally Posted by tiremann9669
(Post 612205)
I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but I've never heard of anyone in NY getting a ticket for smoke. Cops here are to bust tryin to bust you for not wearin your seat belt. QUOTE]
I have. Ever heard of J. R. Collins trucking out of Ohio? They have a fleet of Mack dump trucks, and he was truck pull champion a couple times, with the Buckeye Bulldog. ALL his trucks RUN!!! He got a smoke ticket in NY. $2500, and the truck was impounded. They flatbedded it out of state, and had to fix it before returning to NY. He now runs propane to clear up the smoke. |
Originally Posted by tiremann9669
(Post 612205)
I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but I've never heard of anyone in NY getting a ticket for smoke. Cops here are to bust tryin to bust you for not wearin your seat belt. Free Country:humm:
---AutoMerged DoublePost--- ---AutoMerged DoublePost--- :police::wack::jail::c: I take it you have never been in an accident where the vehicle rolled I have and it is not fun :ouch: if I had not had my seat belt on I would have been thrown from my truck and either it would have rolled over me or the other vehicles would have run me over next time you wanna drive without your seat belt on remember this thread https://www.dieselbombers.com/web-si...ers-busta.html I t can happen to you or anyone on this site and beleive me there was nothing I could have done to avoid the trailer:scare2: |
Originally Posted by busta
(Post 612382)
well actually when they are trying to get you to wear your seatbelt they are trying to save your life
I take it you have never been in an accident where the vehicle rolled I have and it is not fun :ouch: if I had not had my seat belt on I would have been thrown from my truck and either it would have rolled over me or the other vehicles would have run me over next time you wanna drive without your seat belt on remember this thread https://www.dieselbombers.com/web-si...ers-busta.html I t can happen to you or anyone on this site and beleive me there was nothing I could have done to avoid the trailer:scare2: It probably wasn't even excessive, more likely just a cop wanting to give a ticket for something. :c: |
Why should emitting excessive smoke be a choice? It occurs through modification of the engine to emit higher-than-regulated emissions, the smoke itself is damaging to the human body and it comes with plenty of unseen emissions that are also damaging to the body or the environment, and it's physically an eyesore and possibly a dangerous visual impairment or distraction.
A world where black smoke emissions were unregulated would be a very sooty world. It should be illegal, there should be factors working to keep us from modifying our vehicles. The factors shouldn't be the federal-level $1,000+ fines, but I have no problem with $100 fix-it tickets being handed out to weed out the irresponsible immature riff-raff and keep it from being too easy. The same with loud exhaust. It can be very annoying and a world where it was condoned by our governments would be an incredibly noisy world. Fix-it tickets don't keep people from running loud exhaust if they really want to, but it does tend to make them act more responsibly with their loud exhaust and keeps many people on the fence about loud exhaust from going to loud exhaust. As for seat belts and helmet laws, I don't think they should be around, but in a world where they're already firmly established I don't think they should go anywhere. |
Originally Posted by Begle1
(Post 612510)
Why should emitting excessive smoke be a choice? It occurs through modification of the engine to emit higher-than-regulated emissions, the smoke itself is damaging to the human body and it comes with plenty of unseen emissions that are also damaging to the body or the environment, and it's physically an eyesore and possibly a dangerous visual impairment or distraction.
A world where black smoke emissions were unregulated would be a very sooty world. It should be illegal, there should be factors working to keep us from modifying our vehicles. The factors shouldn't be the federal-level $1,000+ fines, but I have no problem with $100 fix-it tickets being handed out to weed out the irresponsible immature riff-raff and keep it from being too easy. The same with loud exhaust. It can be very annoying and a world where it was condoned by our governments would be an incredibly noisy world. Fix-it tickets don't keep people from running loud exhaust if they really want to, but it does tend to make them act more responsibly with their loud exhaust and keeps many people on the fence about loud exhaust from going to loud exhaust. As for seat belts and helmet laws, I don't think they should be around, but in a world where they're already firmly established I don't think they should go anywhere. I AGREE 100% TO THIS!!! |
Originally Posted by brindle_bull
(Post 612155)
im with gijohn go to court and hope the officer doesnt show up...but if you plead "not" guilty that means you can exercise your right to a fair trial in which the judge will have to schedule a jury selection and then schedule a trial session and the officer will have to be present and show some kind of legal proof, in which the judge just might say screw it and throw it out anyways....but if they do give you your trial then you either pay a lawyer or represent yourself with a court appointed one in which if you loose it will get pretty pricey. so all in all i would just stick with hoping the officer doesnt show and if he does then plead no contest and pay the fine in which you are guilty for anyways
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Originally Posted by busta
(Post 612382)
well actually when they are trying to get you to wear your seatbelt they are trying to save your life
I take it you have never been in an accident where the vehicle rolled I have and it is not fun :ouch: if I had not had my seat belt on I would have been thrown from my truck and either it would have rolled over me or the other vehicles would have run me over next time you wanna drive without your seat belt on remember this thread https://www.dieselbombers.com/web-si...ers-busta.html I t can happen to you or anyone on this site and beleive me there was nothing I could have done to avoid the trailer:scare2: |
tell em your cp3 does not recognize your fca so your pcm was trying to reject it. lol works everytime u get the duh look with umm ok
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you may exercise your right to a trial by jury anywhere in the United states and the outlying unless you have previously waived that right
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Originally Posted by brindle_bull
(Post 612621)
you may exercise your right to a trial by jury anywhere in the United states and the outlying unless you have previously waived that right
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Originally Posted by busta
(Post 612382)
well actually when they are trying to get you to wear your seatbelt they are trying to save your life
I take it you have never been in an accident where the vehicle rolled I have and it is not fun :ouch: if I had not had my seat belt on I would have been thrown from my truck and either it would have rolled over me or the other vehicles would have run me over next time you wanna drive without your seat belt on remember this thread https://www.dieselbombers.com/web-si...ers-busta.html I t can happen to you or anyone on this site and beleive me there was nothing I could have done to avoid the trailer:scare2: |
Originally Posted by tiremann9669
(Post 612675)
Well bud I'm glad you had your belt on and you're here with us, But there are also cases where people have lived because they didn't have thier belt on and the post after yours proves that. Car accidents are a terrible thing any way you look at it, I know because I lost a sister to one and she was buckled up. I just think some things should be a choice rather than Mandated by government. :c:
Also to add to that I'll be the first to admit that I don't wear my seat belt as much as I should. Its something I'm working on... |
Originally Posted by puffsmokeonya
(Post 612583)
tell em your cp3 does not recognize your fca so your pcm was trying to reject it. lol works everytime u get the duh look with umm ok
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