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Historic health overhaul a triumph for Obama - Yahoo! Canada News

It's nice to hear the bill actually passed. Progress is a slow moving beast.

I don't care if I'm the only one on here who actually approves of this, there's a reason the rest of the developed world looks after its citizens with free health care.

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IMO, free healthcare doesnt work worth a crap here - its substandard and Im being nice when I say that. Free healthcare might be ok in solicalist Europe but not here. My brother lives in the US and Ive spent a bit of time there so Ive seen heathcare from both sides of the coin.

A LOT of Americans are very much against this and this is probably going to be a heated thread.

Lets look at real life

A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very
interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations
International Health Organization.

Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after
diagnosis:
U.S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%

Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received
treatment within six months:
U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within
six months:

U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one
month:

U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
U.S. 71%
England 14%
Canada 18%

Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in
"excellent health":
U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%

I don't know about you, but I don't want "Universal Healthcare"
comparable to England or Canada .

Moreover, it was Sen. Harry Reid who said, "Elderly Americans must learn to accept the inconveniences of old age."

SHIP HIM OFF TO CANADA OR ENGLAND !

He is "elderly" himself but be sure to remember his health insurance is different from yours as Congress has their own high-end coverage! He will never have to learn to accept "inconveniences"!!!


AND THE WINNER IS VERY INTERESTING!

The percentage of each past president's cabinet who had worked in the
private business sector prior to their appointment to
the cabinet. You know what the private business sector is...a real life
business, not a government job. Here are the percentages.


T. Roosevelt........38%
Taft................... 40%
Wilson .............. 52%
Harding.............. 49%
Coolidge.............48%
Hoover............... 42%
F. Roosevelt....... 50%
Truman.............. 50%
Eisenhower..........57%
Kennedy............ 30%
Johnson.............. 47%
Nixon................ 53%
Ford.................. 42%
Carter............... 32%
Reagan.............. 56%
G H Bush............51%
Clinton ............. 39%
G W Bush........... 55%

And the winner of the Chicken Dinner is:
Obama................. 8% !!!

Yep! That's right! Only Eight Percent!!!..the least by far of the last
19 presidents!! And these people are trying to tell our
big corporations how to run their business? They know what's best for
GM...Chrysler... Wall Street... and you and me?

How can the president of a major nation and society...the one with the
most successful economic system in world history.. stand
and talk about business when he's never worked for one?.. or about jobs
when he has never really had one??! And neither has 92% of his senior
staff and closest advisers.

They've spent most of their time in academia, government and/or
non-profit jobs....or as "community organizers" when they should have
been in an employment line.

GOD HELP US!!

how can you argue with them statistics were screwed :bat::bat:

I can't believe the people in England and Canada aren't fighting against this, where do they for quick health care when were like them.

Back in 1990, the Government seized the (legal) Mustang Ranch brothel in Nevada for tax evasion and tried to run it.

They failed and it closed.

Now, we are going to trust one sixth of the economy of our country and our health plans to the same nit-wits who couldn't make money running a whore house and selling whiskey?!"

:humm: You're right, the cancer survival statistics are the highest for the US.
U.S. Cancer Care Is Number One | Publications | National Center for Policy Analysis | NCPA
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...0716/20080716/
But it looks like the survival rates are all going up. Either way, I think one of the best changes are removal of the denial of coverage for "pre-existing conditions" and capping out lifetime payouts. Maybe it is just a sad fact of life that if you can't afford it you can't get it, but I couldn't stand living with that fear.

There's a few good common sense things in there, that's about it.

granted, if I lose my job I will HAVE to buy my own coverage or pay fines that would equal what I would have paid for coverage, at least that's what I read in the text of it, not exactly a light read.

so....

premiums go up yet again.
taxes go up.
you pay to have it or pay not to have it.
forced coverage.
hospitals make less.
doctors make less.
drug companies make less.

wonder who is gonna make up the difference?

life ain't fair, and everyone isn't going to be millionaires either... some one has to sell me hot dogs and a beer when im at a cowboys game

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Just another step towards communism. :bat::bat: