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handymanherb 02-11-2010 05:18 PM

Toyota mower recall
 

ArizonaRedneck 02-11-2010 05:20 PM

:spit::lol88::lol88: now thats funny there

Begle1 02-11-2010 05:24 PM

Am I the only one that thinks Toyota is getting totally screwed with these recalls?


Imagine if Dodge had to recall all of their trucks with death wobble or Volkswagen had to recall all of their Beetles that spontaneously burst into flames...

handymanherb 02-11-2010 06:07 PM

YES

Woody35 02-11-2010 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Begle1 (Post 492595)
Am I the only one that thinks Toyota is getting totally screwed with these recalls?


Imagine if Dodge had to recall all of their trucks with death wobble or Volkswagen had to recall all of their Beetles that spontaneously burst into flames...

so its not toyota's fault they made a inferior product. excuse my dodge knowledge because i dont have much of it but isnt the death wobble occur when you lift the truck and your suspension geometry changes. how is that dodges fault. thats not how there design was intended to be

Begle1 02-11-2010 07:30 PM

How many cars on the road do you think have dangerous tires, steering, brakes or throttles at any given time? 1 out of 100?

Toyota has recalled 7,500,000 vehicles over 2,000 complaints. That means that .03% of the Toyotas in question have had problems so far. Apparently 3 out of 10,000 vehicles have sticky throttles.

I have a very difficult time believing that .03% of any brands' vehicles don't have serious safety problems at some point in their lives; they're fixed as the problems develop, not as part of massive recalls.

I wouldn't want to jump on conspiracy bandwagons... But Toyota is a competitor to Government Motors, isn't it?

ArizonaRedneck 02-11-2010 07:36 PM

i think begle that your pretty right about the screwing part but they should of never let it get this far out of hand and you know as well as i do that when somebody thats leading the pack stumbles everybody else is gonna be there to try and take them down a notch but thats still a damn funny video

Begle1 02-11-2010 08:15 PM

I don't see how Toyota let anything get out of hand.

They had 3 people out of 10,000 complaining about "intermittent unwanted acceleration". As a mechanic, how do you even diagnose that? It could be a software problem, an electrical problem, a mechanical problem with the fuel system or the pedal itself or driver error. Toyota has skipped around saying what the problem actually is; first it was floormats, then the throttle itself, now they're saying it's programming. Chances are that they really don't know, because it's not a single common problem, it's a statistical anomaly of several rare problems that've all gotten lumped together and blown out of proportion.

ArizonaRedneck 02-11-2010 08:22 PM

but in the past wasnt some people killed in a car accident that lead to this fault

Begle1 02-11-2010 08:52 PM

According to Car & Driver...


We're no Toyota apologists, but if you look past the media circus, the numbers don't reveal a meaningful problem. Every man, woman, and child in the U.S. has approximately a one-in-8000 chance of perishing in a car accident every year. Over a decade, that's about one in 800. Given the millions of cars included in the Toyota recalls and the fewer than 20 alleged deaths over the past decade, the alleged fatality rate is about one death per 200,000 recalled Toyotas. Even if all the alleged deaths really are resultant from vehicle defects—highly unlikely—and even if all the worst things people are speculating about Toyotas are true, and you're driving one, and you aren't smart or calm enough to shift to neutral if the thing surges, you're still approximately 250 times likelier to die in one of these cars for reasons having nothing to do with unintended acceleration. So if you can muster the courage to get into a car and drive, the additional alleged risk of driving a Toyota is virtually negligible.


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