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Old 02-08-2009, 03:52 PM
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Anyone ever seen this on the History channel? I just got done watching the first one and am now half way through More Extreme Marksmen. Pretty sweet stuff with guns, bows and knives.
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Yeah, I've watched it, its pretty good. The only thing I didn't like was how hard they made the 1000 yard shot look. I could hit that target on all but the windiest of days with either my .308 Win, or my .300WM. It takes some simple calculations, but its very doable with the right rifle, the right optics, and the right ammo. Other than that, its a little to theatrical for me, but not bad.
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I thought the same thing on most of it. They hyped each part up so much, but even with the small amount I get to shoot, i'm pretty sure I could do some of it. Tom Knapp is amazing though.
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Yeah, I've seen him shoot in person, and the man is incredible. I doubt I could throw up 3 pigeons and shoot them by the time they hit the ground, and he can do it with about 10. Not only is he one hell of a shotgunner, but he's just as good with a rifle.
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The guys that amaze me are the ones who shoot F class with iron sights @ 1000yards....
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The guys that amaze me are the ones who shoot F class with iron sights @ 1000yards....
That is what you call a true marksman.
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IDK... My theory is, if you have the technology, why not use it? I mean... Its not like those guys in the F Class with Iron Sights aren't using rifles that are incredibly technological.

Now, if your shooting 1000 yard antiques matches, with iron sights, then you have a real marksmen.
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Yeah, I've watched it, its pretty good. The only thing I didn't like was how hard they made the 1000 yard shot look. I could hit that target on all but the windiest of days with either my .308 Win, or my .300WM. It takes some simple calculations, but its very doable with the right rifle, the right optics, and the right ammo. Other than that, its a little to theatrical for me, but not bad.

Have you actually shot at a human sized target out at 1K yards, it's not exactly as easy as you think, or else everybody would be doing it

But hey, everybody's a sniper or a seal/green beret any more
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I know an M4 front sight post almost covers a human sized target at 500 yards. I got to the point I could hit the 10 ring 8 out of 10 shots, but 1000 would probably be a little difficult with iron sights. Now with my Savage Model 12 and my Tasco scope, it is almost easier at 1000 than iron sights at the 500.
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Have you actually shot at a human sized target out at 1K yards, it's not exactly as easy as you think, or else everybody would be doing it

But hey, everybody's a sniper or a seal/green beret any more
Actually, I have, and do quite regularly when the weather is nicer. Camp Perry is only a few hours from my place, and we have 800 yards of clear flat shooting at our cabin. Long range shooting is not something anyone can step up and do, don't get me wrong, but have you watched the show? They make everything so dramatic its ridiculous, not only that, but the rifle the snipers use in the 1k yard shot is the M24 chambered in .308. Now, a .308 is more than capable of hitting a human target at 1k yards, but there aren't many snipers left shooting the .308 cartridge at expansive distances (I know its still used, but there are better rifles that are just as common shooting at much longer distances), most have moved to the .338 Lapua for anti-personnel, or the obvious .50BMG for anti-materiel. Then you have rounds like the Chey-Tec .408, or the Barret .416, which are both extremely accurate out to 2k+ yards in the right hands... Something a .308 couldn't even touch.

I'm by no means in the same league as a lot of other shooters out there, but 1k yards with my 300WM isn't a super difficult shot. Most of the time I can hit a 4'x3' target cold bore, but weather is a huge factor. The sad part is I do that with a 20x scope (Super Sniper), with all my adjustments at my fingertips, 22 clicks up on elevation and I'm zero'd at 1k yards (then you have to figure for windage, and thats a flat shot, no real change in elevation from me to the target to figure in). While I'm zeroing in, a great shooter can hit the same target with iron sights (I've seen it done, my buddies cousin graduated from West Point and he hit the 4x3 steel with a cold bore while I was still getting situated, I still say it was luck , but those peep sights are pretty friggin' accurate). Thats amazing .

Again, not saying its an easy shot, its just not as "Extreme" as they make it out to be, I mean, after all, the longest confirmed Sniper kill was in Afghanistan by a Canadian sniper at 2,657 yards with a McMillan Tac50 .50BMG... THAT is amazing!

Oh yeah, and puddlejumper, ditch the Tasco scope and pick up a nice piece of glass, you won't believe the difference, my Super Sniper was just under $400 and it shoots right with scopes costing 3 or 4 times as much. The Savage 12 is definitely more than capable of 1K shots if its chambered right.
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