Paccar
Has anyone on here had anything to do with the Pacar Engines, are they a really a new motor or just a rebadged Cummins...Would like to hear any feedback on them...
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Just a cummins with a few tweaks
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Kinda what I thought..have yet to see one (other than pictures), or talk to anyone who has one. Guess with Cat out of the picture it opened the door for others :pca1:
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there big bore is not a cummins paccar has licensed the use of the mid range cummins the 6.7 and isc and i think the isL not shure on the L the paccar big bore engine is there new engine, kind of. they bought out a european truck manufacture i think it was call def of duf something like that and now produce there own engine as for cat it was a matter of meeting the emissions and reliability
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It is NOT a rebadged cummins, it is a Paccar built and designed motor, and yes, they do use them in Europe, the company is DAF, its the Euro Peterbilt.
They use Cummins now, no Cats. ISL, ISX and 11.9. |
Originally Posted by Tooslow
(Post 836686)
It is NOT a rebadged cummins, it is a Paccar built and designed motor, and yes, they do use them in Europe, the company is DAF, its the Euro Peterbilt.
They use Cummins now, no Cats. ISL, ISX and 11.9. |
CAT is back ,they are partnered with navistar on there new engine/truck combo:w2:
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Originally Posted by yj junker
(Post 837135)
CAT is back ,they are partnered with navistar on there new engine/truck combo:w2:
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485hp is pretty good power but the new engine 15l should be out soon:w2:
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How are the pacar motors living? I've heard the M.B. engines run real well & are quite, but spendy to maintaine,and don't live very long. Diffrent plp i've talked with say the new detroits are the way to go, to bad they only come in Freightliners or Western Stars
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I comment on the lifespan, I just build them up new (I work at Peterbilt)
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Originally Posted by Sluggo
(Post 838624)
How are the pacar motors living? I've heard the M.B. engines run real well & are quite, but spendy to maintaine,and don't live very long. Diffrent plp i've talked with say the new detroits are the way to go, to bad they only come in Freightliners or Western Stars
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Originally Posted by truckwrench1
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the new detroit is just a mercedes they bought them around 05 they keep the name alive for diehard detroit guys
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Detroit's 60series engines engines are pretty reliable, on par with cats and N14s, but the DD15s seem to be rather fragile, with crap stacked on top of other crap. I'm not much of a fan of Mercedes anyway,:argh:
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Cat sold there on highway engine segment to Navistar, and they rebaged it the maxxforce. They just added a ton of EGR crap to get it compliant with the emissions standards. Cat still builds the internal parts for the engines, just not on paper and puts them in Navistar boxes. Gotta thank washington for all that crap!!!
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If you want horsepower and more reliabilty out of the 2 options you might wanna go with cummins... Open then hood of a new isx its Damn near the same before the scr emission crap. Except there running a big azz fuel filter. Now the big bore paccar is a cluster f*** they put the air compressor above the starter.. pruning the fuel is a pain. It's a wiring nightmare thanks to DAF. And the mini paccar's are just rebaged cummins. If i remember correctly they came out with little paccar like a year or so before the big ones... and scr fuel emissions are also a cluster f*** I would stick with ole cats. 07 and older are good. 07+ cats with the spark plug(yes I said spark plug n i know what im talking about) can be iffy cause itll throw up a code for somthing that takes a couple of hours to find the route of the problem. But cummins is the new high horsepower/ torque. So cat or get a cummins!
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