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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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I gave Dodge stealership my vin # and they said I had an in tank fp. They have been wrong before. When my friend went to Dodge to buy a truck they told him to order the new 24v diesel but he would have to wait three months for delivery. If he was one of the first to order then possibly the first ordered did not have the intank fp. If so....possibly my fp is not in the tank. Does anyone know when dodge first installed intank fp's. Also, is there an easy way to test to see if the fp is or is not in the tank. Thank you, Kerley
 
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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Trace the lines from the tank to the engine, If you don't find a fuel pump, Guess where it is
 
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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How is the hell would they be able to tell that from a Vin?

Look on drivers side of the block near the back.

Theres no way a 98 came with an intank pump. They didnt come out until 03 or 04. Have you owned that truck since 98?

If the pump is in the tank there should be some wires going to the top of the tank.
 

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QUOTE=tiremann9669;612336]Trace the lines from the tank to the engine, If you don't find a fuel pump, Guess where it is [/QUOTE]

Great minds solve problems, Thanks, Kerley
 
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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How is the hell would they be able to tell that from a Vin?

Look on drivers side of the block near the back.

Theres no way a 98 came with an intank pump. They didnt come out until 03 or 04. Have you owned that truck since 98?

If the pump is in the tank there should be some wires going to the top of the tank.
There's wires anyways for the guage, When I called the dealer to price a lift pump for my 96, they tried to tell me they needed the vin because some have intank pump. It was a small town dealer, and I've found a lot of small dealerships where the parts guy knows less than the customer. Needless to say I called Carquest and had one the following morning.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
How is the hell would they be able to tell that from a Vin?

Look on drivers side of the block near the back.

Theres no way a 98 came with an intank pump. They didnt come out until 03 or 04. Have you owned that truck since 98?

If the pump is in the tank there should be some wires going to the top of the tank.
My best friend passed away in 2005 and willed me the truck. He bought it new. If the pump is not in the tank what frame installed push pump will give me the most bang for the buck. I have owned the truck five years and only driven it about 2500 miles. I don't want a hot rod truck, just real dependable and able to haul ***. Thank you, Kerley
 
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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QUOTE=tiremann9669;612336]Trace the lines from the tank to the engine, If you don't find a fuel pump, Guess where it is
Great minds solve problems, Thanks, Kerley[/QUOTE]

I would have told you to look on the block if it was a 12 valve, I wasn't sure on a 24v where the liftpump was, thats why I said follow the lines from the tank just to be sure.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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My best friend passed away in 2005 and willed me the truck. He bought it new. If the pump is not in the tank what frame installed push pump will give me the most bang for the buck. I have owned the truck five years and only driven it about 2500 miles. I don't want a hot rod truck, just real dependable and able to haul ***. Thank you, Kerley
Its up to you and your wallet. But even with a stock truck is very important to supply that injector pump with an adequate supply of fuel to lube and cool itself. Of course, there are other reasons why the VP-44 dies - but an adequate fuel supply seems to help them last. There are many frame mounted pumps - the best of which are the Airdog and the Fass. Both of these manufacturers also have cheaper pumps that dont have the fancy filters on them. FWIW, the filters arent a gimmick abnd are worth the extra money. There are also mechanically driven fuel pumps as well.


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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 12:19 AM
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i think in 05 they started puting them in the tanks, but when older trucks went to the dealership for lift pump problems they had retrofit kits and installed them in the tank!

thats what they did to our 03 shop truck, and the intank pump is worhless
 
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 07:23 AM
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and the intank pump is worhless
Friggin' rights they are! When I put my Draw Straw V in, I had that fuel pump in my hands. Such a tiny POS! The fuel pump in my old '98 Chevy 5.7L Gasser is BIGGER than the one that came out of my Dodge. That too sure why Dodge figured that a fuel pump half the size of a pop can would feed a 5.9 Cummins.
 
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