Bio Diesel At The Pump
 

Whos running Main Stream Bio Diesel ?

DM

I have been runnin bio for about a year now. I havnt had any problems. I like it! It does clean out you fuel system so be ready with about 3 filters. I run bio all the time except when its below zero. Above zero I run at least 5 gal in a tank full. Its a great lubricant and even the smell makes ya hungry!! lol Its in the 20's and Im runnin B50 When it gets into the upper 50's Ill switch to B100 and run it till it get cold again. The only thing that may happen is your fuel guage will be off. It makes the sending unit loose contact so I just go by how many miles I travel. Just buy from a reputable aupplier and you will do great. You will love it!!

the only biodiesel i can find around here is B2, ive run it a few times, if its cheaper then the other stuff, not much of a change with it

Minn has 2% at all pumps in the state. When it was first instated in the fall a couple years ago, there were icing and gelling problems caused by bad processing. This has been fixed and it seems ok now. I don't notice any difference. Maybe a little sweeter smell. Maybe the smell is just growing on me. :woot: It was ok this winter at -20 either with or without Power service.

It is said that 2% is better than any of the additives we use for lubrication. My IP clatters when I have to use out of state #2 so maybe its true.

i just found out that i have been running it and did not even know...did anyone else notice a climb in MPG while running it?

They don't have Biodiesel here in CA, at least not anywhere around So cal.
Scott

just got a 10% blend last fill up. :cp: smokes better woohoo

straigtht vegi oil smokes even better... :cp: :cp:

I run bio when it is cheaper than regular diesel. Every once in a while I run a mix of WVO and diesel, but I have been to busy lately. After I get my house finished I want to run a 2 tank system so I can run veggie more often.

I have the two tank system from DFA (aka Vegistroke) and really like it. Don't know what you drive but they guys at vegistroke are working on a cummins conversion also.
I have gone 1000 miles since my last diesel fill up and i still have over half a tank!

We have a BD producer just down the street. They are selling B20 to 1 gas station about 11 miles from us. The rest of the production goes to the county, Cherokee reservation and the Great Smoky Mountain National Park.

I can tell a difference when I run BD compared to regular #2 diesel.

Good difference?

Just put 100 gal of b10 in the rig yesterday, first time iv got it.

I just started using B20 in my rig. I buy it in Belgrade, Mt on Timber st at Pacific Pride (if you don't have an account you can use the card reader with a debit card). Currently $3.13/gal vs $3.10/gal for ULSD

Find Biodiesel click-> NearBio

I finished my first tank of B20 Biodiesel and the results look good so far.
The truck runs the same other than a noticeable increase in fuel mileage.
I averaged the last 10 fill ups (not towing) with ULSD and compared them to the mileage on the 31 gallons of B20 I went through this week.
So far on only 1 tank the increase is 3.003 mpg increase with the same driving conditions as the last 10 tanks average. Part of the large increase is most likely due to winter blend. It still was 1.02 mpg higher than the highest ever on straight #2 ULSD.
I will keep using it and see if this keeps up.

I'm still gunshy about using yet. I'll was always getting horror stories from my dad who works for a chemical company that had bio in their tanks. Winter was definitely a problem if you didn't keep it treated and the other was the cleaning of the system as mentioned above and plugging things up. I guess being prepared is the main thing.
Anyone know if the manufacturers are recommending higher levels of bio? I have a tech bulletin from AMSOIL on biodiesel that came out a year ago. I'll post. I'll put it in the AMSOIL forum to be on the safe side.
Here's the link to that thread: https://www.dieselbombers.com/amsoil/1445-tech-bulletin-biodiesel.html

IIRC Cummins said it was OK to use B20 in fleet trucks so it may also be good in ours but I think Dodge will only let us use B5 at this time for thoses who have a warranty that is. Being Mason Citys Bio plant started up maybe someone in town will sell it for us to try out :ww:

You would think so. Too bad it was $1.50 from the tap:)

I too am a little gunshy about using it.. something about good old standard #2 makes me feel good lol.
Scott

While there have been issues with biodiesel, they have been pretty well dealt with by the industry. In the beginning there were some reactor issues experienced by many companies (including the one I got my biodiesel from) and it was later recognised that additives were needed to prevent varnish buildup, but those issues have been dealt with. Biodiesel is stable to 40F, below that you will need to mix 50/50 with diesel and below about 15F I would run straight #2 and forget about bio until spring.

Some manufacturers in Europe have permitted use of b100 but most in the us have gone to b5 or b20, this is in part due to the litigious nature of our country and partly due to the age of the bio-diesel industry. In practice any vehicle built after about 1992 should have fuel lines and seals that are compatible with bio-diesel and running it should not be an issue for you, earlier vehicles will need to have the fuel lines replaced with those made of fluoroelastomer (Viton(R)).

Even if you are not sold on the biodiesel or straight vegetable oil concept, it would behoove you to begin adding at lease a gallon of biodiesel with each fill up because as ULSD hits your pumps you are going to start loosing injectors, fuel pumps and injection pumps at an alarming rate, biodiesel restores the lubricity lost through the removal of the sulfur.

I design systems to run on vegetable oil, waste oil from businesses, filtered and put into a second tank. The vehicle starts on diesel and runs on it until operating temp of 160F is reached, a computer then switches to VO for the duration of the trip. SInce the system uses waste heat from the engine it is not temperature restricted and I have clients running at -45 in Alaska. I just finished a 450 mile round trip and burned less than a quart of diesel fuel. Another option, but if you are gunshy about biodiesel, the idea of pouring waste oil from a burger joint in the tank will really make you flinch!

Chris

Very good indo Chris. Thanks!...and welcome

I have noticed a 1 mpg increase over the ULSD crap. The truck also feels quicker on launch and is a tad quieter than dino diesel

Does anyone know where I can get Bio blends in western north carolina? Specifically the Boone area?

Did you check here? -> http://www.nearbio.com/nearbio/index.shtml

Here's another:

http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodi...lfuelingsites/

Wow, Chris Goodwin himself....welcome aboard.

I also just ran 650 miles round trip on straight waste vegi oil and used less than a guart of diesel fuel....:j:

I have been making my own Biodiesel for about 8 months now. I have been running b100 in my 1996 powerstroke with no problems, and b70 in my 2003 Jetta. It is a great hobby and it costs me about .70 per gallon

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There is bio in Pacific palisades and Ventura. I just heard of a station near Atlantic and Firestone Blvd

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I have been making my own biodiesel for 8 months now and have had no problems. I am using it in 1996 powerstroke and 2003 Jetta

I've been running bio [ not filtered , used , waste oil - do at your own loss ] for over 2 yrs , anywhere from b2 -b80 , so far it seems that somewhere between 20-35% gives the best performance , but with prices of petro going to excessive highs , I may go to b100 , the main problem is the lack of the available b100 with out a long trip , or getting a bulk tank fill .
I chose not to get at a filling station because there are about 90 plants in the US , and some of those do a bad job of processing , [ A friend at the coffee shop builds control panels & programs the computers , so he tells me who to stay away from .
I'm trying a new processed type now , that used ethanol instead of methanol , pour point goes as low as -60*F , with a 60% bio , so much for winter issues , but the only problem in the past with the methanol bio was the bulk storage of b100 in winter , this winter I plan on mixing into the bulk storage b20 .
Big subject could go on for ++++++