YA Baby....B-20 In My Town
 

I got my first batch of B-20 today for 3.27 a gallon............................will be runnin it from here on out for the lubricity qualities

found it in Riverton Wyo at our new truck stop :U:

what is reg diesel costing you?

its 3.71 here and theres no bio in site

Our bio here is considerably .15-20 cents more a gallon. They just added B99 last week and it was $4.25 versus $3.55 for #2. :puke:

ULSD is 3.29 and the B-20 is 3.27

its a brand new truck stop so they are prolly just truyin to get biz goin then they will jack prices up

I don't know, B20 here has stayed pretty competitive. I'm paying 3.35 and #2 out at the HWY is 3.34 so not much reason not to run it.

im still not set on bio.....heard it clogs stuff up

B-20 is 20% bio.....it cleans the fuel system up vewry well and yes the loosened particulans do end up in the filter so when ya first start usin it keep a spare filter on hand at all times and watch yer FP gage

the lubricity of just 2% bio is better than any additive on the market so its very advantagious for us to run atleast B2 or better when ever we can find it

Bio-diesel :puke: A racers enemy.

racers dont need lubricity............2% is fantastic

We dont? :humm:

the Benz dragster runs 100% bio :pca1:

Cummins Diesel dragster runs 7.98 at 167.43 MPH on Blue Sun 100% biodiesel fuel!

http://www.cumminsracing.com/new_main_page.htm

If they ran straight #2 there performance numbers would be greatly increased. Everyone knows this Whit, get with the program. :ph: :dd: BTW- What was that again about racers dont need lubricity? :pca1:

5% - 8% less energy in a gallon of average 100% soy biodiesel compared to a gallon of average #2 petroleum diesel.

If a racer can't tune for that...they shouldn't be racing.

:)

Why should they have to? Why would I want to start with less power and try to compensate to make more. In the end you're still down on power by typically 10%.

2% bio = HFRR of 221

ULSD HFRR=636

Engine manufacture recommendations HFRR <460

its a no brainer man

Thats lubricity not BTU's Whit.

yes I know this..................an improperly engine that is locked up wont need any BTU's is my piont

get the lubricity there and then add some methanol to up the BTU content eh

Yep, I've been there done that 3 times but it wasnt from lack of lubricity. Well, it wasnt up to the point that a window was installed on the right cylinder bank of the block. :pca1:

Even running straight #2 diesel provides enough lubricity for the engine and fuel system. Using an additive is even better.

you didnt see this?????????????????

ULSD HFRR=636

Engine manufacture recommendations HFRR <460

Thats "Untreated". Yes, the refineries do add a lube package to ULSD. Its not very good but its better than nothing.

dont ever count on the refineries doing the additive package .....................it dont happen more than it does I know I worked for Flying J for a couple years

What kind of fuel are you running?

IIRC the older engines need to have a HFRR of around 300-325 like our old LSD had. Also I recall that the ULSD HFRR=636 is before lube is added to ULSD.

Here is what Cummins wants as of Oct 31, 2007 for diesel fuel and I assume it for the new 6.7L engine, its a good read I think anyway. http://www.maitlandelectric.com/truck/fuel.html

Whit is right though. Some batches they add the package and some they dont. Its hit and miss as to whether you get a tank of ULSD that's been treated or not and the only way to know is to have an analysis done. I've actually considered doing it for about 5 tanks just to see how much difference there is between batches.

#2 ULSD with Stanadyne

Just regular pump fuel or do you buy it from a certain place?

If yer gettin lower fuel mileages with Bio and it's higher in price then ULSD I don't see the advantage here. In my case it was considerably lower mileage. Bio stays a little cheaper then ULSD here in the corn belt cause they promote it more, no state taxes on it here in Illinois. Still cost a pretty good amount of extra money to run it thougheven with that because of the lower MPG.

And the loss of power. :madd:

I've talked to a few who use B20 and notice a loss in fuel mileage and some power but not so much when using B-2. BTW, 2% Bio is all you need to use if you just want to add lube for your fuel system.

Hey Whit,

How's the B20 treating you?

real good.....prolly burned up about 300 gallons since then and things are well.....................I got into some -20*f weather so I added a shot of antigel but it performed flawlessley

they did raise the price to 3.49 though

We don't worry about cold here too often. This year everything has been quite warm. It was 83 yesterday and supposed to get up to 85 today. (I think the summer is going to be a hot one.)

At the plant here in town, today's price for B100 is $2.95. B20 or petro-diesel is about $3.39. (as of Feb 23, 2008) But it isn't always convenient to drive to get biodiesel.

They don't mind splashing my tank with just a few gallons. (Ft Sam and Lackland buy 4000 gallons a week to make B20 for the public works vehicles on base.)

I try to remember what my ratios are so that as I top off the tank, I know what my biodiesel percentage is.

I notice that everyone seems to agree there is a loss in fuel mileage with bio. When I was at home I ran B-20 and it increased the fuel mileage by 1-2 MPG consistently.

I wonder why? maybe the B-20 was just a better blend than the Conoco, Cenex and Exxon ULSD I was getting prior to the B-20 ???