Anyone Ever Use zMax??
 

This stuff makes allot of claims about how it "Soaks into metal" and helps lubricate...

Thought this would be interesting if it could "soak in" and help lubricate the injection pump among other things...

So, anyone ever give it a shot in the fuel or in the oil?

Ive been curious myself. :humm:

:humm: :humm: "Soaks into metal"


Thats an interesting idea.






Save your money and if your worried about injector pump lubrication buy some 2 stroke TCW-3 oil.

Well I dont know if it works or not but they have advertisement everywhere and all the shows I have seen it on shows them putting some on a solid metal piece and then some of the "oil" on a carbon chunk. the carbon gets completely dissolved and the metal piece looks like a paper towel that is getting wet in the middle. Like the metal is just soaking it up.

so I would be willing to try it. but I dont really know if I am willing to pay for it.

Hmmm.. LoL I may have to give it a shot myself then! Its 35$ so i may give it a shot... Im going to check on their site to see what details it gives on diesel use! :choochoo:

I think I would run the stuff your supposed to put in the oil. I dont know about the fuel stuff.

I would not put this with fuel - because it will be some sort of synthetic and isnt meant to be burned its meant to treat the engine oil.

There are separate bottles in the kit... One for fuel, one for oil and one for trans.

there is also one for power steering. Now that I went to their site I really want to try it in my 195k mi. Bronco. I mean it cant hurt anything too bad

Seems like every few years we get a flood of new products that make new claims. I remember the additives that were supposed to Teflon coat your engine parts, then it was porcelain coat the engine and on and on.

I remember watching an old, really old informertial where they had a 300 6 ford on a trailer, to which they ran it like normal, then while it was running drained the oil, took off the valve cover and oil pan and it still ran. I think they even went as far as putting sand in the valve train...or something like that. Cant remember the product.

I remember that... I cant remember what it was either!

X3 on that Infomercial dunno the name either :humm:

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Carol Shelby uses it its gotta be good right :w2:

or they reached his magic number - Everyone has a price :w2:

haha lol yea that is for sure...... money talks right

Hes getting pretty old, maybe they just pay for his supply of Geritol?? :lol::D

well if you think about it the amount of money for him to endorse it.

It cost the customer like $90k for a fully built stage 3 super snake...and they do quite a few of those.:tu:

I just happen to know a guy who has one. It is so fast. and he said there was at least half a dozen of them on the trailer that picked up his car.

I have used zMax before in a gas engine but not my diesel. I will say it did increase the mpg in the car and it did run better after an hour long drive after using it. It also idled better so it must of cleaned up the injectors and the combustion chamber.

I think it was called slick 50 when I was in high school in the 80s it works we drained a 5hp engine of oil and it ran all day without oil,there was no load on the engine.

What kind of car was it, and what engine? I have been thinking about running some in my truck cuz I am sure it needs somethin like this

I put ZMax in my truck about 6 months ago.The kit had oil and fuel treatment,said it was good for gas and diesel.Engine seemed to be slightly free er revving.Stock injectors crapped out a month later (450 000 kms) They were starting to go already tho.I thought the engine oil additive worked good, the fuel additive???IDK.

I also used ZMax years ago. I put it in our '84 Grand Marquis (302 throttle body injection). The car had a strange drive ability problem. On the freeway it would cut out at 70 - 75 MPH on a hill if it was in overdrive. A time or two I thought it was going to take the lid off the air cleaner it popped back through the intake so bad. The other way this showed up was it would cut out in town under real light throttle when you hit a certain kind of bump. Before ZMax, I could never figure out the problem or get it to go away.
I saw their infomercial and was laughing at them until the 'owner' got on and told about their guaranteed mileage increase. This was about 10 years ago and I don't remember what gas cost then. But if you got the guaranteed increase, it would pay for buying the product in the first place. I ordered some and put it in the car. Right away, I noticed the car seemed to have better power. I also noticed that the drive ability problems went away also. Then when I figured the mileage I got pleasant surprise. I'll be honest and I don't remember the numbers. If they guarantee a 10% increase then I got an honest 16 or 18%. I figured it was working since the car got around 15 MPG before. I also liked how it 'cured' the above stated problems. I want to say they said to put it in every 5,k miles. I did at first, but money being what it was I decided to wait after the second treatment. At just over 10,k miles my mileage dropped off again and it started to have some of the drive ability problems again. So I used it about every 10 - 12,k miles. It seemed to help that car.

Now, I also have an '82 Honda Silverwing. I tried it in it and didn't notice a thing. In all fairness I already used synthetics in it and premium gas. In the car I used regular old petroleum and low octane. I theorize that this ZMax made up the difference between the oils. I don't know. I also tried ZMax in the Int'l and didn't notice any change. I think that old girl just has a drinking problem and always will until I get the 5.9L in there!
I guess I would recommend ZMax to my friends here. Just be aware that it may not help your particular rig. If it's going to help you will know on that first full tank!

When I had access to a military tech library (Back in the late '80s...) I had tried Slick 50. I didn't notice any benefit what so ever so I decided to look up that mil spec they advertise on the bottle. It was for the very cheapest, non-detergent, straight 30W engine oil you can buy. That one quart was the only one I ever bought!

ZMax on the other hand, I used quite a few bottles of. I don't have that G. Marquis any more. When I sold it with 200,k on it; it ran just as good as it did when we bought it with 100,k on the clock. Since the stuff hasn't helped any of my other rigs, I just quite buying it too..... After the lawsuit (I got a check for about $2 out of the settlement!! :jump:) years ago, I have never bought any more. I would have to look into what they say about putting it in my diesel.... I am a little more picky with it.....

A 2002 Dodge Caravan with 3.3L engine, a 2005 Dodge 1500 4.7L engine. Being the 1500 was new I did not notice much mpg improvement but did get rid of a slight miss do to dirty injectors from poor gas. IIRC we did get 3-4 mpg increase in the Caravan and it also ran better. What I did was to make sure the engine had been run no less then 15 minutes at speeds above 35 mph to get it up to operating temp and then shut it off long enough to add zMax to oil and gas and then drove it non stop at Hwy speeds 55-65 MPH for 90 minutes to give it time to clean the fuel system.

Duralube. :tu:

Soaks into metal???

As far as I remember metal has a certain surface, it was called Tribology.There are some Universities just concentrating on that.

There is no soaking into metal. But there is sticking and covering onto the surface. To you remember honing? To achieve a sticky suface for lube oil?
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That all sounds about right:

I never looked into Duralube. Never tried it either. I think that was what a friend wanted me to try once.

My bro wants me to try one.... I will have to ask what the name was. It was similar to Lucas oil additive I think......

Yeah, cohesion and adhesion sound about right here. There wouldn't be any soaking into except for a few microns near the surface since microscopically there are pits and other imperfections. Reminds me of that college class from Chevron about their Delo product line! I might have to look that book up . . . .

Trust me, I make no claims to know anything here but as far as soakin into the metal I have to believe it possible. Millco and a few others of ya have military time, remember those days when ya cleaned that rifle spotless for inspection and the next day it was filthy again all the sudden. cause that damn CLP/Breakfree did it's job to well and pulled carbon out of the pores and cracks.

Then you would get those assholes that would try the shortcuts and use brake or carb cleaner to clean the weapons and by the next day the metal would turn white and rust would set in if ya didn't lube em back up.

I am not trying to be a jerk here but anything and everything actually penetrates everything its just to some rate that is usually not noticed.

It is called diffusion. it happens with everything. think of a smell. thats pretty much how it works. if you spray wd40 you can smell it. because of diffusion. In metals it is just a slower rate of "soaking in."

I am a chemical engineering student trust me on this. We had like two weeks of class on diffusion.

and have you watched some of the videos about zmax? they are actually pretty interesting. it dissolves carbon directly in front of you and after a little while the metal looks like it is saturated or wet looking all over.

Due to the fact that metal IS porous things can fill the pours and "soak into" it... Well, not ALL metal. Stainless steel isn't porous..

I'm going to do an oil change tomorrow and give it a shot.. Ill give you my "seat of the pants" opinion. :yeah:

I hope you don't think it will be giving you power improvement...............

Nope, thats what the ADR is for... LOL

Just like the idea of more lubrication... Not like our engines run hard or anything with 17.6:1 compression and 30psi of boost... Plus the rat bastards in the government taking the lubrication outta diesel fuel! :voodoo:

I used all 3 when my truck was new have not had a problem yet. 9miles when the zmax was used i now have 54,ooo:tu:

Take it from me...this stuff works. I've been using it for the last several years and have seen the benefits of it everytime. Since I have been using it I have not blown any engine up including our race cars. I have used it on vehicles that were dieing and it brought them back to life. I have used it on vehicles that had a problem with the valves seating and it helped reseat them by removing carbon build up. I could go on about the benefits of ZMAX but take it from me...I am a cerified technician of 6 years, a mechanic of 16 years and I own and run ChristianKustomz Automotive & Performance tuning...IT WORKS and you can bank on it!

Or the FTC....

FTC Sues Speedway Motorsports and Oil-Chem Subsidiary

FYI: Announced Actions for March 20, 2003

Sweet zombie thread by the by

The FTC might have a problem with them but for me this product works very well. It's a little pricy but I am sold on it. I have neer heard a complaint from any of my customers. Seems like the FTC wants to sue everyone. I think the FTC has sued everyone at some point lol. Thanks for that info because I never knew the were being sued. It's good reading though. But to the original question: in my experience and opinion ZMAX is a great product that works. I think it's bad they flubbed a few tests because they really didn't need to do it. But it works. I have used it in diesel oil and gasoline engines and performs fabulously. I would not suggest the transmission treatment though. I have never seen any benefits from that. The fuel treatment works as a preventative measure but not after you already an issue. This is after years of usage. So that's my answer to the original Q. I hope this helps.

I joined just so I could let you know that you should have kept reading on that FTC website because it goes on to tell you that zmax and the ftc had a settlement and zmax can continue to make its claims

FYI: Announced Actions for March 20, 2003
zMAX vs. FTC - Reduce friction, increase horsepower, dissipate engine heat, deposits, restore gas mileage, extend engines life

the settlement was made in 2003. i put the fuel and oil additive into a fresh synthetic oil change, it seems to warm up quicker and drive smoother through the rpms. i dont know about the fuel additive though.

I put zmax in my f350 6.0 power stroke yesterday and it fixed the cold stiction about 90%. So it does work.

Those that put it in during the year 2010, did you continue to use it? did it make any dif? any outstanding claims? did it fail? what did you do to test or what was your data fix point to compare it too? i want to get as many miles out of my motor i can. also, those that put it in the transmission.
did the trans work better? or did it conveniently crap out? no one has really come back with a positive outcome yet.:s:

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