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Diesel Bombers 10-14-2009 12:50 AM

Study finds E85 increases efficiency offsetting MPG loss
 
A study released by the University of Nebraska found that E85 delivers more efficiency over higher petroleum fuel blends, offsetting much of the loss in Miles Per Gallon (MPG) typically attributed to E85. The study illustrates that when calculating fuel MPG performance, both the energy density of the fuel (BTUs), and the energy efficiency must [...]http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?hos...el&ref=&feed=1

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12vcummins96 10-14-2009 11:46 AM

well it all comes out in the end they both equal out

dorkweed 10-14-2009 07:29 PM

I call BS!!!!! Ain't no way that can happen. The BTU's in the fuel are less..........so the the power output will be less............ so the mileage will be less. Look where the study comes from.......Nebraska..........a big "corn" state...............do you think they'd publish something that said E85 sucked??????

snakyjake 10-19-2009 12:39 AM


E85 delivers more efficiency over higher petroleum fuel blends
How is efficiency being measured?
What petroleum blend are they comparing it to?

Then the article says this:

increased efficiency translates into an MPG decrease of only 14 to 19 percent depending on vehicle size using E85
Yup...the article says E85 decreases your MPG. And apparently 14-19% isn't much to them. And that means gasoline driving Americans now consume 14-19% more fuel! So much for raising fuel efficiency on automobiles.

The the article further defines efficiency as:

difference in MPG is compensated by the lower price of E85 blends at the pump that are on average 20-30% less than regular unleaded.
Interesting, because in my area E85 is more expensive, and everything at Propel is more expensive.

So basically, you get less MPG, but in some areas (probably where ethanol is being produced) E85 cost less money. They call this efficiency.

Does it really cost less, when the government subsidizes ethanol production (proof).

There's no free market for ethanol, and really not a free market for oil either. No one knows the true cost.

So with this info, I just provide whatever is best for my vehicle.

Kind of funny how much spin is in that article.

Jake

06Dodge 10-19-2009 12:23 PM

My cousin had a flex fuel pickup an said even with the lower selling price of E85 he would not use it as the lower price did not make up for the big loss in fuel mileage. BTW when they do any Ethanol test they admit they not use the same Ethanol blened gas you buy at your local gas station, they have ethanol shipped in just for the test.

handymanherb 10-25-2009 05:05 PM

Dam sure don't work good in the boats, the stuff we suck water right out of the air and not not being on the water as boat engines don't run a closed loop system.

I seen a test on u-tube where they sat a gallon of 85 fuel in front of a fan and in no time there was water in the fuel and over night it picked up 8 oz inside a garage

dkabat 10-26-2009 09:01 AM

handymanherb, you are right. Ethanol is a water loving molecule that will attract water from the moisture in the air. That is why it is almost impossible to get 100% ethanol. It can only be obtained when there are additives to repel the water. So, E85 has a high water content when not used immediately. Imagine what all the lovely water is doing to fuel injected vehicles? I can see pitted injectors and a bunch of corrosion in seldom used engines. Fun....

NadirPoint 10-26-2009 11:33 AM

Less MPG = More Efficiency? Hmmmm. :humm:

From Nebraska, huh? Riiiiiiight. :w2:


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