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Whit 04-27-2007 10:16 AM

Home brew and road tax???
 
Just curious if anyone knows the implications of making any kind of home brew fuel for personelle use then not paying a road use tax on it.

I guess what I am getting at is one of these days the fed is gonna catch on a figger it out that home brew travels the roadways for free

Heath 04-27-2007 10:55 AM

This was just posted on another thread. CHenry responded to similar question.


What about the tax man? Are they on the lookout for VO users to be sure they get their fair share?

I have heard that in CA this is a fact, they have a tax form for homebrewers to send in payment for there estimated fuel use that was not taxed.
CA has ALOT more people doing this right now than the rest of the states.
Other states will follow as soon as it becomes more popular. I am still buying some diesel at the pump, the VO is more like a "fuel extender"....

Johnny Cetane 04-27-2007 11:20 AM

yah it's only a matter of time fellas before they get their grubby paws on this. i gotta feeling they'll tax it to the point where ya might be better off just buying fuel.

GRI 04-27-2007 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by johnnychimpo (Post 18040)
yah it's only a matter of time fellas before they get their grubby paws on this. i gotta feeling they'll tax it to the point where ya might be better off just buying fuel.


I totally agree with this because the oil companies are paying the politicians on the side, so, if we decrease their profit the politicians lose their little cuts

CHenry 04-27-2007 11:49 AM

I don't have a problem paying road use tax actually. I use the roads and this money is earmarked for maintenance and construction of the interstate system. In OK the tax is 26 cents per gallon of fuel i believe...11 cents to the state and 15 cents to the feds. I work in the transportation industry and my job is to scope new construction projects for the state. I Come up with a scope of work, estimate construction cost and then it becomes a project. I see the operations of the yearly budget and I spend it as fast as it comes in. I see projects get build below standard because there just isn't enough money to build it right sometimes and that really bothers me but i just do as told. We have some of the poorest roads here in OK and everyone thinks its mismanagemet of funds but actually its not, we do the best we can with the dollars we get. People have NO idea how expensive a simple widen and overlay project can be...just to add 8' shoulders and a smoother surface on some little rural 2 lane highway that carries 250 cars a day. How about 1 million per mile? Now multiply that by 5 or 8 when your talking about multilane interstates carrying 200,000 cars a day.
And with the cost of a barrel of oil, asphalt is currently more expensive than concrete pavement.

Okay, i'm done... :pc:

bow2no1 04-27-2007 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Whitmore (Post 18012)
Just curious if anyone knows the implications of making any kind of home brew fuel for personelle use then not paying a road use tax on it.

I guess what I am getting at is one of these days the fed is gonna catch on a figger it out that home brew travels the roadways for free

sorry bub home brew has been around for a long time.
feds have known about this..

people use to be able to have a still for making home brew fuel. long before WVO.... i don't remember all the deatails. but people was allowed so much with out paying tax on it.. eventually it just faded out..
i dunno any one that even owns a still. let alone make home brew with one.

Johnny Cetane 04-27-2007 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by CHenry (Post 18050)
I don't have a problem paying road use tax actually. I use the roads and this money is earmarked for maintenance and construction of the interstate system. In OK the tax is 26 cents per gallon of fuel i believe...11 cents to the state and 15 cents to the feds. I work in the transportation industry and my job is to scope new construction projects for the state. I Come up with a scope of work, estimate construction cost and then it becomes a project. I see the operations of the yearly budget and I spend it as fast as it comes in. I see projects get build below standard because there just isn't enough money to build it right sometimes and that really bothers me but i just do as told. We have some of the poorest roads here in OK and everyone thinks its mismanagemet of funds but actually its not, we do the best we can with the dollars we get. People have NO idea how expensive a simple widen and overlay project can be...just to add 8' shoulders and a smoother surface on some little rural 2 lane highway that carries 250 cars a day. How about 1 million per mile? Now multiply that by 5 or 8 when your talking about multilane interstates carrying 200,000 cars a day.
And with the cost of a barrel of oil, asphalt is currently more expensive than concrete pavement.

Okay, i'm done... :pc:

yah this makes sense. i just don't want to invest in the system then get my pee-pee slapped by some fat congressman cuz he sees an opportunity to put money in his pocket. i'll gladly pay the going tax on production fuel anyday.

steved 04-30-2007 12:36 PM

IMO, I would simply supplement fuel I buy at the local station with my homebrew...that way big brother doesn't need to know.

No different than making homemade wine or beer...as long as you don't try to sell it.

steved

redneckbuckeye 04-30-2007 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by CHenry (Post 18050)
I don't have a problem paying road use tax actually. I use the roads and this money is earmarked for maintenance and construction of the interstate system. In OK the tax is 26 cents per gallon of fuel i believe...11 cents to the state and 15 cents to the feds. I work in the transportation industry and my job is to scope new construction projects for the state. I Come up with a scope of work, estimate construction cost and then it becomes a project. I see the operations of the yearly budget and I spend it as fast as it comes in. I see projects get build below standard because there just isn't enough money to build it right sometimes and that really bothers me but i just do as told. We have some of the poorest roads here in OK and everyone thinks its mismanagemet of funds but actually its not, we do the best we can with the dollars we get. People have NO idea how expensive a simple widen and overlay project can be...just to add 8' shoulders and a smoother surface on some little rural [U]2 lane highway that carries 250 cars a day. How about 1 million per mile?[/U] Now multiply that by 5 or 8 when your talking about multilane interstates carrying 200,000 cars a day.
And with the cost of a barrel of oil, asphalt is currently more expensive than concrete pavement.

Okay, i'm done... :pc:

:lol:



Thats because every time I go by a road construction project there are half of the works just leaning on the shovel handles and shooting the sh!t.

CHenry 05-02-2007 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by redneckbuckeye (Post 18849)
:lol:



Thats because every time I go by a road construction project there are half of the works just leaning on the shovel handles and shooting the sh!t.

Your in Indy, I was talkin about Oklahoma...:ph: :duh3: lol


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