Swapping to synthetic oil
I am planning on changing to Amsoil dual filter kit and swapping to Royal Purpal Synthetic oil? I only have 6000 miles on the truck. Will it hurt to change it now?
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i dont beleive it hurts a motor to change types of oil as long as you drain and change completely and not just adding oil the way i see it i would like to see how the dual filter kit keeps the oil i have read good things
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The only thing I hear about synthetic is that you're not supposed to go back to conventional after the swap. It wears on the seals differently. But once you go purple, I can guarantee you won't want to go back!
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That's A Myth
Originally Posted by BIGHORN08
(Post 857330)
...you're not supposed to go back to conventional after the swap. It wears on the seals differently.
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6000 miles is plenty of miles to change over. Mixing, changing back and forth isn't a problem as mentioned above. AMSOIL only has a single bypass kit for your Dodge, not a dual. There were occasional problems with oil pressure lights going off with the dual mounts years back and they haven't recommended the dual for about 4 years now. The dual was only used in the 04 and older trucks but they just took it off the market last month.
The BMK21 is the kit you would need. Along with that a filter, BP241, BK1303, and BP242. That would be all the pieces you need. |
Originally Posted by BIGHORN08
(Post 857330)
The only thing I hear about synthetic is that you're not supposed to go back to conventional after the swap. It wears on the seals differently. But once you go purple, I can guarantee you won't want to go back!
Originally Posted by Heath
(Post 857420)
6000 miles is plenty of miles to change over. Mixing, changing back and forth isn't a problem as mentioned above. AMSOIL only has a single bypass kit for your Dodge, not a dual. There were occasional problems with oil pressure lights going off with the dual mounts years back and they haven't recommended the dual for about 4 years now. The dual was only used in the 04 and older trucks but they just took it off the market last month.
The BMK21 is the kit you would need. Along with that a filter, BP241, BK1303, and BP242. That would be all the pieces you need. |
Thanks guys for the information. Installed the filter and by pass kit. It completely relocated the stock filter (thank God) :jump:it mounted on the frame under passager door. My dad has had his on his 09 for a couple of years and changes his oil once a year or 25000 miles. The cost was 380 dollars and took about two hours to complete.:tu:
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Originally Posted by 617.95
(Post 857904)
Just because you do it doesn't mean its a smart thing to do. I have an uncle that has smoked meth for the last 20 years, that doesn't mean its safe for other people to do.
Besides the compatibility issue, there is absolutely zero benefit to using dino oils in anything except a dying jalopy. The only reason dino oils still exist in stores is because people think its cheaper since they pay less per QT. The problem is that people only think about the point of sale price instead of long-term costs. 6k miles is plenty to switch to synthetic. There are plenty of UOAs of vehicles of all types running dino oils that turn up great results. While synthetics have their place (turbo gas applications, high performance apps, extreme cold etc etc) and benefits but dino oils are FAR from useless. The difference between group II+ and III is pretty thin IMHO. |
I would use nothing but conventional motor oils if I was putting alot more miles on my vehicles using more oil that way. The reality of the cost vs. benefit deal with synthetics is pretty limited to a minority of people in atypical situations. Most people that use them are just being pulled in with marketing hype and wasting money in the process. To claim there is no benefit to conventional oils in anything but a dying jalopy is absolutely retarded. An analogy related to smoking meth borders on incomprehensible.
But considering the source, I do understand somewhat. :w2: |
Originally Posted by 617.95
(Post 861370)
Different additive packages, mostly to handle natural sulfur contamination in the dino oil.
Most of the sulfur is taken out of the crude during the refining process to make it useful as anything.
Originally Posted by 617.95
(Post 861370)
There is no such thing. Group III oils are pure marketing and not synthetic. Loopholes in the US laws allow them to be called such, and you can thank Castrol's low quality oils for that. The rest of the world doesn't allow Group III to be marketed as synthetic. Try finding blue bottle Rotella in Canada or the UK.
Originally Posted by 617.95
(Post 861370)
They are made from the start to be blended and they have extra additives specifically to make them blend better.
Amsoil, by far and way the snobbiest of PAO synthetics makers, and most every other oil maker say it is perfectly fine to mix group 2-4 motor oils.
Originally Posted by 617.95
(Post 861370)
That is false information. The only valid application for dino oils is poorly maintained engines at the end of their lives. All maintained engines benefit from synthetic in every application and weather condition.
Synthetics are better based on what un-quantifiable criteria that doesn't seem to manifest itself on a UOA?
Originally Posted by 617.95
(Post 861370)
There is NO difference between them.
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