TSB 1802409 - no more Smarty - uh oh!!!
 

Returned my 6.7 to stock because of the AC was hasn't blowing cold air and took it to the dealership:argh::argh::argh:.

They fixed the AC and also updated the PCM per TSB 1802409 and now my Smarty 6.7ME reads "error unknown software" when I try to reinstall.

Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone know how I can get around it? My truck runs like crap in this stock form. I need my smarty?

Thanks for any advice or comments.

man thats a tough one . i dont know. did you not know they could lock pcm out so smarty wont work. i just called techs and they said not to try and load smarty. they said it could crash your truck computer. marco is still working on trying to fig dodge lockout but hasnt yet. smarty will not work on anything newer than march 09 or one that has had that flash. you might see if dealer can put a older flash in but i dont know if that will work.

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everybody that has a 07.5 , 08 and early 09. if you ever plan on putting a smarty on your truck dont let dealer flash your truck with the lockout flash or your done. they tell me that marco is working on it but dont know when. please tell everybody that has one.

uh oh is wright you are done for know. dum ass dealer ships

I was told that all dealerships that get trucks in have been instructed to flash trucks, and when they do, no more programmers will work.

sounds like your screwed. that blows. i have heard of this before also. get use to the stock feeling for a little bit. i am sure someone will figure something out, just gotta hang in there.

Can't revert to an older flash either. So yeah, your SOL & JWF

i think marco will fig it out in time. i am going to get in touch with all my customers that i sold too so they can look out for this.

Stealerships have put me in a pinch.

Does anyone out there work for a dealership? Can I send my PCM to you to have it reflashed? Is that even an option?

My truck was awesome and now it is ...well ... pitifull.

Learned my lesson- I think...

What sucks is that I had a great relationship with the shop manager at my regular dodge service center but it has not closed so I had to take it to a new one.:argh:

Thanks for all your help.

did you have to authorize the re-flash or did they just do it on their own?

They did it without asking. How nice of them huh:booo:

as stated, they have all been informed to perfomr the flash regardless of what the truck comes in for, oil change, brakes, whatever, even if you go to diagnose, flash, yer dun, next. :argh:

Glad I haven't bought anything yet... my 08 is suppposed to go in next thursday. I had the P2262 coem up, we cleared it with a hand held autozone scanner on tuesday, it still hasnt' coem back on. I did run the truck in 5th gear hard on the highway for a couple days of my commute (80 mph in 5th, so the rpm was up around 2500 or so) and it hasn't come back on yet, I wonder if I just got it hot enough to clean itself out.....

I'm going to tell the dealer not to do anything with the computer as far as new programs without my consent first... what revision software wise did they go to, so I know which one to tell them not to do?

if i ever buy another truck i might look into getting one without the warrenty. i know companys do that. its a lot cheaper i have heard

Man that SUCKS :bat:.... Glad I seen this. I was about to take mine in for an oil change. Will this flash kill all programmers or just the smarty?

any and all

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i still think that dealer can take it out, how else could they get back in themselves to work on things. i would ask them

I finally get my pickup de-smogged to where it runs good, then they pull this crap. W/O a programmer.. I'm going to have all kind of lights & codes.

I'm going to tell the dealer if they put this flash on my truck they just bought it

im goin talk to techs this week and see if marco is makin any progress.

I took mine in for an inspection after i bought it and they flashed mine without asking then charged me for it too... If a dealership was willing could they possibly revert back to an older flash at all?

Can't revert back to an older flash.

Whoever dreamed this up should be gut shot and throwen in a ditch somewhere.

I talked to a Cummins tech and Dodge has really screwed this new truck up, they can't even directly communicate with there own computer, they have to go through the Dodge computer system to communicate.:ouch:

It has made it hard for them to do there own programs on these new trucks.:argh:

Hey guys, talk to your dealer about the automatic flash deal, I have not heard of this, as a matter of fact Chrysler does not want the PCM flashed unless there is a symptom or concern. Chrysler will not pay the dealership to flash just because the truck comes in for an oil change.

wont that be something when the aftermarket guys are more sucessful at cracking their code than the manufacturer itself... it's like they're buying their own sand to be kicked up in there while they get screwed from their own intentions of screwing us lol

Not really about wanting to screw us, on the new engines Cummins cannot (like they have in the past) plug directly into the ECM to check on or run there own diagnostics or programs.:humm:

That's what I was trying to put out there.

then you just get an entire performance ecm like other vehicles you cannot program via the obd port

i got email from mads thursday and they said they hope to have a fix for lockout this week.

I had mine in for some warranty work and they did the same thing, bullydog did not recognise it, but the smarty loaded right up. next time you have to take it in, go and buy a lock box and make it fit over the obd port and lock the jackoffs out! out of the big 3 dodge is the only one doing this bs.

Its funny you say that;

I was talking to a few techs that work at the local dealership. They said a woman came in with a truck for some maintenance like brakes or something. They put their wireless OBD controller on there and went to scan the computer and it just fried.

They then tried again with another obd reader and it also fried.

After further inspection the woman had moved her obd up under the dash out of access and placed a "fake/dummy" port where the old one would be located. She then had an inverter and rectifier setup off the battery to step up the DC voltage with a transformer to something like 100v and fed it to every connection on the dummy OBD port.

They are pursuing litigation against the lady and her defense is you dont need my ECM to change the brakes nor were you authorized to do so.

We shall see what happens.

If she did not authroize it their ain't a damn thing they can do. bar says if you fix something and did not get auth then it is on you. had a customer pull it on me one time but i was smart enough to log the call and get his dl # as proof of auth, he lost!

Are the ECU's VIN specific? If not, maybe you could buy one from a wrecked truck that has not been flashed and use it when your truck isn't going to the dealership. When you need to take truck in, use your original ECU?

I imagine it probably isn't that easy.

I'm interested in hearing more about this one. Keep us posted.

That's an intresting idea. Definately something I would do if I were going to bring the truck in for any kind of work like that.

Bad part is..... I will do all that type of work myself... brakes are brakes, tranny fluid swap is a fluid swap, etc.etc. That stuff is the same for anything really.

The damn computer in the truck, that's a different deal.

Maybe just take the port, unhook it and hide it with a lock on it.... and just put a dummy one there that has nothing hooked up. At least that way you're not blowing the tech's stuff up.

He is not locked out of his smarty, the new chrysler software release should be published by weeks end.

Thanks

I have the new Smarty V15 installed and running. Thanks MADS:c:

That's good news GMB. Glad you got it up and running. :U:

marco is the man :U: