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strokedout07 04-03-2011 02:35 AM

headstuds?
 
I have been told by a few individuals you can put headstuds in your truck by simply pulling the bolts out one at a time and replace them with a stud as you go I find this hard to belive can anyone give me some insight on this please

WIRedneck 04-03-2011 03:13 AM

I can't say for sure either way, but I would not trust that method...

prison 04-03-2011 03:22 AM

it would probably still stay seated. for best results of course you're gonna want to install new gaskets but if your on a tight budget you could probably get away with your method

stone 04-03-2011 06:18 PM

I dont no if thats true, but i do no its pointless to do headstuds unless u have ur heads decked to make sure their flat. Without that done ur still gonna blow headgaskets.

prison 04-03-2011 06:29 PM

if they stay seated you don't need to because its seated already. once you take them off you should so the surfaces seat properly

Mdub707 04-04-2011 07:58 AM

I've heard of a couple people doing this and even one member from another site who did this AFTER he started puking and it stopped.

Me personally, there is no way I'd even waste my time putting headstuds in without taking the heads off and having them decked.... coming from a guy who has blown 3 sets of headgaskets, once with ARP's installed by the dealer. :pca1:

Diesel_Daddy6.0 04-15-2011 07:00 PM

How about in my case where I know the heads and gaskets are still good, no signs whatsoever of a failure. I just want to start making a little more power and add reliability. What are the torque specs for ingoing studs?

95powersmoker 04-15-2011 07:05 PM

Some 7.3 guys do that, one stud at a time...

If I had a 6.0 I think I'd be replacing the gasket though.

newman 04-15-2011 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Mdub707 (Post 734433)
I've heard of a couple people doing this and even one member from another site who did this AFTER he started puking and it stopped.

Me personally, there is no way I'd even waste my time putting headstuds in without taking the heads off and having them decked.... coming from a guy who has blown 3 sets of headgaskets, once with ARP's installed by the dealer. :pca1:

I'm with Mike! Do it right the first time.

Diesel_Daddy6.0 04-15-2011 07:39 PM

Probly can't slip a new gasket under there with cab still in place huh?

95powersmoker 04-15-2011 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by Diesel_Daddy6.0 (Post 740575)
What are the torque specs for ingoing studs?

I think 125ft lbs... But It will say on the instructions when you buy the studs to verify.

stone 04-16-2011 06:06 PM

Some shops do headstuds with the cab still on the truck,thats how strictly did mine. But like Mdub said its a waste of time unless u have ur heads decked.It doesnt matter if u ever had a head gasket problem or not, ur heads could still not be flat. I never blew a head gasket before but when my heads were checked by the machine shop guess what? they needed decked.

Mdub707 04-18-2011 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by newman (Post 740613)
I'm with Mike! Do it right the first time.

:c:


Originally Posted by Diesel_Daddy6.0 (Post 740614)
Probly can't slip a new gasket under there with cab still in place huh?

Yep, you can do headgaskets on a 6.0 any way you want. The easiest is cab off, but in-cab can and has been done. The main issues here are the A/C system will need to be evacuated and refilled, and the drivers side, the bolt that is the farthest back towards the firewall, and closest to the fender will give issues coming out/going in. You can cut it in half (be careful since the engine valley is exposed), or rubber band it, or most people dent the firewall in there for clearance. I've also heard you can unbolt motor mounts on one side and rock the motor to the side, also heard you can unbolt trans from the cross member and jack it up thus pointing the nose of the motor down and allowing clearance. Get creative!


Originally Posted by 95powersmoker (Post 740718)
I think 125ft lbs... But It will say on the instructions when you buy the studs to verify.

No, old style ARP lube is 245 ft-lbs, new style is 210 ft-lbs, exercise those arms boy!


Originally Posted by stone (Post 740937)
Some shops do headstuds with the cab still on the truck,thats how strictly did mine. But like Mdub said its a waste of time unless u have ur heads decked.It doesnt matter if u ever had a head gasket problem or not, ur heads could still not be flat. I never blew a head gasket before but when my heads were checked by the machine shop guess what? they needed decked.

Agreed again, DECK THE HEADS. :c:

jhart242 07-02-2011 04:36 AM

I agree on having everything done right the first time. If the sole on your boot fell off, you wouldn't just put new shoe laces in them. Everything is a process. I have seen allot of heads with minor surface cracks, cracks by the injector cups, warping etc and you would never really know it until failure. Spend once, cry once.


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