VE To A P-pump
 

I have been thinking about buying a 1st gen to play around with. Is it hard to P-pump one? Will it make good power like a 2nd gen 12V will? Just an idea I had and I was wondering if anyone had done it here. Thanks in advance,


Pete:sen:

it will make good power and its not difficult to do, i guess it can be done for around 2500 bucks

would it be streetable? I know they say a P-pump conversion is supposed to be anstreetable on a 24V.

it would definatly be streetable, no reason why it wouldnt be

Sweet, what all do you have to change? Is it just the injectors, lines and the pump?

i beleive the pump, lines, timing case, and a few other things, i think the injectors can stay

The 12 valve Cummins be it the VE pump or P7100 are for so much conversation Identical. Save for the pumps and harware that it bolts to.
But if I may, The whole charm of the Gen 1s IS the VE. Do get the truck, but give the VE a chance.

yea you need a new timing cover I believe. new injector lines, adaptors for injectors...and the actual p7100 itself...that will set you back a pretty penny. If you found a wrecked truck with one then it would be ideal as you have all the parts.

It was just an Idea. I have been reading and the VE doesnt sound too bad. I am trying to decide if I wanna keep mine and buy a 1st gen or try something else. Thanks for all the help guys.

you can get the be to 400 hp....but it will be a chore...I know you can put a bigger pump head on it to flow more fuel. But the ve is part of the character of a 1st gen.

1st gens rock. I have always loved them.

Me too Jason, I just have too many plans and not enough money HAHAHA

Buy the truck and try the ve. Theres nothing like the first time(or first hundred or so) you drive it after tuning the pump knowing you didn't spend any money. If you've got the money to do the p pump swap, then spend it on exhaust, guages, a turbo and maybe a new air freshener.

The VE pump can flow 400 fine; 300 HP can be reached on stock 9 mm injectors and stock turbo, 400 HP can be reached with POD's and a modified stock turbo (or HX-35, which really is nothing but a modified H1c.)

The new 435 injectors that are all the rage now might support a bit more than POD's.

But cracking 450 requires a bigger pump head (of which there are two dozen in the country) or drugs.

Wow guys thanks for all the great info. Why is it so hard to get a 14mm head for the VE pump? do they have more of htem in different countries or is it like a custom made deal?

They're all custom made. I think that they were only around $500, but some didn't last very long...

There were a bunch more available in Europe for use in Volkswagon performance applications, but those were four cylinder models and wouldn't work for some reason.

where would i get a bigger pump head? I've been searching for my truck.

KTA-Cummins(Brian Block) does the 14mm heads. The problem is that the clearence is so tight in the pump you cut down on the ability to lube as well. To make it live you have to keep good preasure to the pump and have a set of sticks to flow the fuel. There are some mean ones out there. Brian put down 627/1300 on a 14MM head and twins with some large custom sticks. This is the truck.

KTA isnt the only one that can get the 14mm heads, i know where you can get them all day long.....they are so tight that if you handle them too much the plunger wont fit the barrel, you need about 40 psi of fuel to feed it properly.

Yeah so do I. I know that Brain was the one who helped in development on them.

go to www.rocken-tech.com they got all kinds of stuff for the VE.

any one have any experience with rocken tech? i wonder how their heads compare to brians

i havent had a chance to call them yet, sadly, but with my new job, ill eventually be buying one.