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Bamadiesel 12-19-2011 10:01 PM

How to get better mpg?
 
I just got a 2007 dodge 2500 cummings it has the 5.9 in it and im looking for ways to get mpg just wandering best ideas about what to do?

Diesel Dawgs Performance 12-19-2011 10:36 PM

Exhaust, Intake, Smarty

Luke

Bamadiesel 12-19-2011 10:44 PM

I planned on putting a chip on first but i'm new to diesel's so i wasn't sure. I thought about straight piping it and putting a air filter do you have any better ideas or recommend any brands?

Bigg Redd 12-19-2011 10:59 PM

Well, first and foremost, IMO, would be exhaust. Make it breathe more efficiently first before bombing the heck out of it. Straight piping that beast would be LOUD. But then again that would depend if you have the kitty, DPF etc... or not. I have an 06 dually. I went with AFE 4" turbo-back exhaust (straight piped) and it was loud. But towing, it was REDICULOUSLY loud. Bought an MBRP straight through muffler and toned it down quite a bit. Now I can hear myself cuss @ rice burners with big wings. :tttt:

Bamadiesel 12-19-2011 11:05 PM

Thats was the only thing i was afraid of was how loud it was going to be. Im not really worried about towing i will mainly be using it to drive back and forth to work. Recommend anything or brands air filter, cold air intake, programmers?

dangerous1965 12-20-2011 08:20 AM

Smarty!

03Powerstroke 12-20-2011 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Bamadiesel (Post 833209)
I just got a 2007 dodge 2500 cummings it has the 5.9

no G in cummins:nope:

1AMatt 12-20-2011 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Diesel Dawgs Performance (Post 833223)
Exhaust, Intake, Smarty

Luke

:tu::tu::tu:

Bigg Redd 12-26-2011 06:29 PM

Well, if youre not gonna be towing anything, go straight piped. It sounds so sweeeeeeet! Especially in the lower RPMs. However, you may get some In-cab droning. Just turn up the stereo...........:w2: I wish I could have left mine staight piped, but I do tow a large travel trailer when I travel & I usually travel 4-5 times a year. Aaaaah, retirement is great.............:tttt:

Bamadiesel 12-27-2011 08:29 AM

Thanks Bigg Redd I plan on straight piping it. Is there anything I can put on it after I straight pipe so it won't be as loud if I don't like how loud it is in the cab?

1AMatt 12-27-2011 08:44 AM

Straight pipe is pretty obnoxious outside the truck but not terrible inside the truck. If you are worried about noise then without a doubt put a muffler on the truck.

Bamadiesel 12-27-2011 08:57 AM

I am not worried about outside noise its the inside that I don't want to be extremely loud.

steved 12-28-2011 10:31 AM

Short answer is drive slower...driver plays the biggest role in mileage.

Unless you plan to keep your truck for a lot of miles (talking 200k plus), you will likely never see the return on the money invested in mods for fuel mileage. Although it does make it a lot more interesting to drive! $1000 will buy a lot of fuel versus a 1mpg increase in mileage from $1000 in mods...something to think about.

With that said, a Smarty will not likely give you a significant increase in hand calculated mileage; it will only make hitting your current mileage "high" more consistent/easier...for example, if you hit 20mpg once in a while, you will likely find it easier to hit that mark and more often. Straight piping, unless you have a DPT; will yield very little if any mileage....the stock exhaust is just not that restrictive. The biggest thing to improve mileage (other than driver input) for myself was installing a set of DynaTrac lockout hubs...that's between 0.75 and 1.5 mpg increase, and varies from person to person.

I have done the "mileage mods", and I have the records to back my statements up for the past 260k...I got a high of 21 mpg when bone stock and less than 1000 miles on the clock, and I still get pretty much 21 mpg at 260k with a SmartyJR, exhaust, hubs, and intake...and that's with 4.10s!

Its not easy to "make" something with the aerodynamics of a brick more economical, wind resistance (not programming, intake/exhaust, etc.) is your biggest hurdle in these trucks. I know this from literally miles (over 500k between two trucks) of playing around trying for that huge increase...my best hand calculated tank on this 04.5 was 26mpg (yes, 26mpg); but that was an unusual set of circumstances: 55mph on the interstate through the flat lands of North Dakota, with a 45mph tail wind...I got two tanks back to back that hand calculated at 26mpg! The return trip on that same route netted me 15mpg because I was bucking a 45mph head wind...you win some, you lose some.

Based on my experience, I have made up my mind that I will probably do only two things on my next truck...a in-bed fuel tank similar to my current setup to prefilter my fuel (to help protect the injection system) and a muffler (for nothing more than noise).

Bamadiesel 12-28-2011 11:01 PM

Does it matter pipe size on straight pipe?

steved 12-29-2011 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Bamadiesel (Post 836313)
Does it matter pipe size on straight pipe?

The stock pipe is 4 inch, if that's what you're asking?

Bamadiesel 12-29-2011 12:15 PM

I know that im wondering more on the lines of what size i should replace that with when i cut off the cats and muffler?

Bigg Redd 01-02-2012 05:43 PM

Actually your current pipe size is 4", and its quite efficient (except the stock muffler, and possibly cat). Unless your going for upwards of 450 hp plus, or was it 500 hp :humm:
Anyway unless youre going for serious mods, your stock pipe size will do. Aftermarket Exhaust systems can get pricey, but that depends on what you want. I, recently changed my tail pipe section to a 5" inch from the muffler back. Its got the 5" look from the rear, but from the muffler to the Turbo its 4" AFE. No performance gain, but looks cool. :c: Freeing up the exhaust will also bring down your EGTs. Thats a good thing. :tu:


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