water / meth bad?
 

i have an 03 and i am wanting to order water / meth inj. but i was talking to a buddie of mine and he said that even if the meth is diluted by water after a while it will melt down the pistons, rings, and valves. but with so much good feedback im wondering if he is wrong:humm: can anybody give me a solid answer? THANK YOU!

Ok ive never heard of water melting metal but ok. Water meth is great for diesels. Aslong as you get a kit and dont try to jerry rig something together your fine. There is a reason there are kits for this. Injecting water/meth into any motor must be done with precision. Your best bet is to go with a SnowPerformance kit or someone like that. Water/meth is good because it cleans out your motor, drops your egts, and can increase MPGs if introduced in a very small amount while driving. Think of it as water when you wash a dirty truck. Doesnt harm the truck but it leaves with a shiny, pretty truck. Thats what water meth does. It "scrubs" your cylinder walls, your valves, your pistons. Pretty much anything that has any part in the combustion process it cleans and keeps clean. Sorry this is so long. Hope this helps. :c:

thank you! thats awesome, i thought there wouldnt be such a big market for it if it was bad but just wanted to make sure before i buy and install. thanks once again!!!

No problem. Your best bet is to get a Snow Performance MPG Max stage 3 system. You can run Windshield washer fluid but sometimes the mix of 50/50 is as close as it should be. :c:

Were do you get the water meth at or do you make it.

You can order it from someone who makes the kits like Snow Performance or one of the others. You can also use pre-mixed windshield washer fluid. The problem with using that is that you cant know for sure how well it is mixed since its well, windshield washer fluid. You dont know how precise its mixed and how clean the water is that it was mixed with. If i was injecting this into my truck, i would order from Snow performance. They are local here for me and ive been through thier shop and met the owner twice. Great guy, facility is clean and organized, and they know what they are doing. You can get a case of Water/meth mix for like 20 bucks. 4 of the big jugs come in a case. :c:

Plain old blue windshield washer fluid. :tu:

Those kits are outrageously overpriced. You can get better parts and make it yourself for half what they cost.

If the person has the knowledge to build one. If they dont have the confidence or help to build one, its safer to get a kit. Shouldnt take a chance when injecting chemicals into your engine. :c:

Build It Or Buy It - It's Your $
 

I been running W/M on both my trucks for years. The 1st Gen for 4 years, 2 years on the '07 - no problem. I knew nothing about it when I started. Read up, asked questions, made some mistakes, live and learn, still saved a bunch of money.

The last guy I helped with that on here seemed pretty happy with it.

https://www.dieselbombers.com/5-9l-2...-my-setup.html

You run W/M?

Yes on my 6.7.

Good for you. Wasnt talking about you personally. If this gentlemen decides to build one himself, hopefully you can help him out.

That's Odd
 

Apparently you've had this truck maybe 6 months and only post about W/M starting today. Nothing about installing it on the 6.7 either. Methanol has zero hits searching for you. :nope:

Very strange, indeed. :humm:

OK be a big boy and get to your point. Was i supposed to tell you when i add things to my trucks? Am i supposed to post in every thread about something i feel i can help with? I dont know what your problem with me is but either get over it or stop following me. Its really sad you took all that time to stalk me. When i said "if the person has the knowledge to build one", that was not directed at you. If i wanted to say you didnt know what you were talking about, I would of just said it. Dont take things so personal.

Do you guys that have it in your trucks run it all the time or just when you are pulling something. If running it all the time how long does it take to go through a gallon of water meth or washer fuild.

So Here's My Point:
 

My point is you're being a dick (to me) and trying to give people advice about things you don't know anything about. Tell us about that "precision" requirement for water injection you mentioned earlier - I'm all ears....

What goes around comes around. Little boy. :w2:

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When it runs depends on the type system you install and how hard you run the truck. Some systems run lower volumes at less boost, the mileage and towing type systems. So It would be flowing less water more often. OTOH, high power drag trucks might run a gallon or more through the engine in a few seconds on a pass. I set mine to run only on high demand above 17psi boost or so. That makes for a compromise between EGT control and added power when you need it. Maybe you just run water for the EGT control while towing.
That was a mistake I made on my first setup with the 1st Gen - too small a tank. If you are towing with it to keep EGT down you will go through alot of water, so probably need 5 gal tank minimum.

Im just running the Snow Performance MPG system. Still on my first 5 gallon tank. Only been in a week. :yeah: This system is on all the time. Ill let you know how many miles i get out of the first tank :c:

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Nadir-
Your the only person on this site that has a problem with me. I used the term "precision" so someone who didnt understand water/meth would begin to see the importance of making sure the right amount and right mix goes in so that the combustion is not quinched. No I didnt build my own. It was easier and faster to just order a kit and put it in. I have too many projects going on plus i just got married and the wife would rather i spend time with her than work on the toys. And you still havent told me what ive been wrong about since "i dont know anything". Stop being a little girl and taking things personal. I told you twice that comment was not directed at you but you fail to understand that. Reach down, grab ahold of whatever is there, man up, and move on. :c:

No Problem
 

See, you're wrong again - I have no problem with you - just helping clarify your position for other posters. For example, when you feel compelled to post advice on subjects with which you lack experience or knowledge: The easy way out when you don't know anything about W/M is to just buy a kit. That's you. Maybe not everybody thinks that way. But we know you do, and that's what you advise, regardless of what you know about W/M, the other poster's requirements, abilities or budget.

Remember me next time you decide to call somebody out being a dick if you don't want any more assistance with clarifying your position to other posters around here.

No problem, glad to help! :tu:

OBTW, your continued references to genitalia, sexual orientation and children makes me wonder. Just sayin' :humm:

Still not telling me what i was wrong about. Thats your statement, "I dont know what im talking about". Prove it. Shut up or prove it. Where was i wrong?

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Really? What is this high school?

No, You're Right:
 

Excellent advice.
Is that the only reason? Is it also because they make alot of profit on the kits, maybe?
What precision are we talking about here? PSI? Config settings? EGT? Care to explain? Or did the word precision just seem to make it sound like you might know something?

Again - all ears.
Maybe you're a gambling man, but I would not bet on what's best for a particular application without having a few questions answered first. You got a crystal ball? What's his budget? What application? A plethora of other factors to affect what's best for him.

Crappy, baseless advice. :rolleyes2:
All I can say is.... :spit:

OK, only 90% wrong. Good enough?

So let me get this straight. Im wrong because i didnt give enough details, i didnt ask enough questions, and water/meth injection does nothing to clean up carbon build up?

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This is the second time me and you have ruined a thread in a pissing match. Ive helped alot of people on here and alot of folks that live around me. I might not know every little detail about every single thing but i know enough about alot to atleast get them in the right direction and most times help them out with the install, swap, or rebuild. I told you what i thought of you before and you got pissy cause i judeged you off what you said. That was wrong of me and I apoligized. Your judging me off posts and comments. How hypocritical is that? Please feel free to come to the springs and meet me. I could use help. Doing a VGT swap on the 24v plus cam, rods, and valves. Putting a double disk in the 6.7 and Im rebuilding a 413 to put in my Dart. Plus trying to figure out why my old polaris 250 wont get spark to the plug. So please, you want to judge me, do it in person.

i thank you all for the advice but i would rather we save the highschool BS for the drag strip. all im here for is advice, AND I THANK YOU! but if you want to talk smack get each others email and do it that way instead of filling up the post with junk. this website is to help guys/gals out, this isnt the lifetime channel and if i wanted that crap i would watch tv. im not pointing fingers, im just saying lets keep this helpful. thanks

No Biggie
 

Uh, that would be incorrect - not that I care. Just setting things straight, really couldn't possibly care less.

Why do people get their knickers in a twist over the Internet? It's mostly an ego thing. Some people imagine they have an Internet reputation to uphold by demonstrating extensive knowledge, skills and experience in the cyber world they really do not possess in actual reality. Keep it in perspective. It's just the Internet.

Like Clint said: "A man has got to know his limitations."

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