black smoke and power
 

If I want black smoke and a lot of power ....would the edge attitude be a smart buy ?

smarty

Nope! Do yourself a favor and get a smarty s06. When you get more fuel in the future than start stacking with a fuel box and maybe a timing box.

Why the smarty over the edge ?

x2 Personally, I'm going with Edge or Quadzilla ADR...

I personlay see a lot off truck come through the shop on the hook or blown injector solenoids and fried ECM's. And the truck always has an Edge. I personaly won't sell one to anyone.

The Edge and Quadzilla setups are nice but trucks seem to run better with the Smarty.

I've seen my buddies truck come alive with the smarty especially if you get online and download the TNT program for the smarty and everyones right watch putting an edge on your truck. It will like the smarty much better

I went with a Samrty Jr, set it to SW3, got more power and a goodly amount of smoke. Throttle is more sensitive and if I get into it a little too much, I can fog out for quite a distance. The SR does the same but with more power settings and more smoke.

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smarty:tu:

Smarty hands down for CR Dodge. The tunability of the smarty is second to none plus if you wanna go crazy with power stack an edge on top of that. The edge would be my second option. But you will make more power with a smarty

I used to run an Edge Juice w/ attitude. Now I run the Smarty. Smarty all the way. Fuel milage is better with the Smarty too.

x2 edge is killer on fuel, go with the smarty.

why not a ppe programmer. has any one tryed that one. ive been reading alot about that one and it says it gives more hp than anyone ive read about including the smarty.

I have the PPE programmer and i like it only three stages of adjustability is the downfall. I run PPE and my buddys run Smartys we all like our programmers.

Just set your damn truck on fire and there's all the black smoke you will ever need. This is the type of crap that gives people who drive diesel's a bad name, wanting nothing more than to throw out black smoke and look cool.

Smarty s06 all the way! You wont be disappointed :tu:

Smarty s06 is the best programmer for the cummins, lots of power and smoke :tu:

my vote is for smarty:tu: if all your interested in is smoke then the only way edge will do it is with the hot unlock, but the edges do tend to run hot egts though. but i would agree i kno alot of dudes that had the edge and got rid of um for the smarty because of issues they were having with them. the cummins do tend to run nicer with the Smarty IMO

Why do you want smoke?

yes smarty will make a lot of power and smoke.

Yes, but why make smoke? What is the purpose other than polluting the others around you?

Smoke is the preparation to power.
If you need power you need 2 things: fuel and air.Lots of air!
The bad thing is in that moment the pedal hits the floor fuel is injected- more than enough- smoke develops because of the lack of air.

An aftermarket turbocharger with a huge pressure build up or high flow needs a certain time to spool up to deliver that air. The bad thing is that diesel start to smoke at least at 18:1.

So you need a matched turbo or fuel injection. Tuners like the smarty work with overfuelling. Get a proper turbocharger ($$$) and smoke will be gone.

So smoke shows a mismatched turbo/fuelinjection and some think it's cool.
I wouldn't worry about it as long as tires are burned in africa and china on a daily basis.

ppe works the best on 03/04 trucks much better then smarty or bullydog on those trucks, also ppe horse power numbers are flywheel everyone elses numbers are to the rear wheels thats why ppe's numbers are so high. If you only have 3 stages then you just have the standard version, you can get it updated, to have more stages and power, but you have to pay to get it down and depending on how high of power level you want you might have to send it in to ppe to get it done.

Back to the op, the edge is a decent chip, but power wise wont touch smarty or bullydog, and i have also seen alot of problems with edge chips because they plug into so many different locations, and have loose wires in there harness all the time causing alot of problems. I havent run the adren on a common rail yet, so cant give any feedback for that one but smarty and download tnt, or bully dog and download the larry files for it.

I don't know alot about cummins but my brother has a 99 24v and he just put a quad adr on it and it has a ton of power and smoke, he has been happy with it and it is on the fly ajustment which is nice. That would be my vote.:tu:

quad adrenaline an a vp truck (98.5-02) are probably the best out there, but on a common rail (03+) is alot different.

I have my Adrenaline installed and so far I love it! I still need to spend some time tuning and such but I think I made the right choice for my needs. :rocking: