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Zach Rummel 07-16-2017 08:15 PM

07 5.9 Cummins Tuner
 
Been debating on getting either a H & S Mini Maxx or Edge Juice with Attitude. Was wondering what the differences really were and which would be recommended. Only upgrades my truck has is aem cold air intake and 4 inch straight pipe. Don't know of it matter but truck has 8inch lift in 37s.

Jmrobinson 07-17-2017 02:32 AM

If h&s is an option I'm assuming it's 04.5+ which means efi live would be your best bet

Zach Rummel 07-17-2017 03:16 PM

Efi live 07 cummins
 

Originally Posted by Jmrobinson (Post 1134004)
If h&s is an option I'm assuming it's 04.5+ which means efi live would be your best bet

What makes efi live better then edge and h&s?

CumminsCoalRoller24/7 07-17-2017 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Zach Rummel (Post 1134026)
What makes efi live better then edge and h&s?

EFI live has a much wider band of tuning parameters that are used. The edge/ H&S are box tuners so they have x amount of settings that are the same for every truck. As you know not all trucks are identical. Everything from intakes to tires to turbos etc will make the trucks run differently. Having more parameters tunes YOUR truck and does not just load a tune on there. Will edge/h&s provide more power than stock- yes but thy are not the best programs out there

Zach Rummel 07-17-2017 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by CumminsCoalRoller24/7 (Post 1134034)
EFI live has a much wider band of tuning parameters that are used. The edge/ H&S are box tuners so they have x amount of settings that are the same for every truck. As you know not all trucks are identical. Everything from intakes to tires to turbos etc will make the trucks run differently. Having more parameters tunes YOUR truck and does not just load a tune on there. Will edge/h&s provide more power than stock- yes but thy are not the best programs out there

Now how exactly would they custom tune it to my truck especially since I don't have much done besides my air intake, exhaust, and soon a wicked wheel.

11B/11C 07-18-2017 03:05 PM

Your intake and exhaust are not a performance upgrades. Don't waste your money on a wicked wheel. EFI is more in-depth then box tuners, so with a good reputable tuner they can make your truck run better and you'll get better performance tunes because of the capabilities that they have. Even though don't have any performance upgrades, you'll still get better, cleaner and safer tunes.

CumminsCoalRoller24/7 07-18-2017 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Zach Rummel (Post 1134038)
Now how exactly would they custom tune it to my truck especially since I don't have much done besides my air intake, exhaust, and soon a wicked wheel.

EFI uses a V2 that hooks to the OBD ll port- to start you give your info- year make model tire size mods etc. also advise your power goal- in your case you want a MPG tune. They have a single tune or 5 tune Package they will send. When the V2 is hooked up it will reflash the computer with the new parameter/tune they created. Once loaded you can use your V2 software to record your driving and send the file to them. They will look at the parameters of what was recorded and can make adjustments to fine tune to exactly what you are looking for. A good reputable tuner will have you dialed in in just a couple flashes tops unless you get really picky

11B/11C 07-19-2017 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by CumminsCoalRoller24/7 (Post 1134081)
EFI uses a V2 that hooks to the OBD ll port- to start you give your info- year make model tire size mods etc. also advise your power goal- in your case you want a MPG tune. They have a single tune or 5 tune Package they will send. When the V2 is hooked up it will reflash the computer with the new parameter/tune they created. Once loaded you can use your V2 software to record your driving and send the file to them. They will look at the parameters of what was recorded and can make adjustments to fine tune to exactly what you are looking for. A good reputable tuner will have you dialed in in just a couple flashes tops unless you get really picky

the V2 is for making the tunes your self. If you have a tuner write you tunes, they'll send you an autocal with the tunes loaded on it.

Zach Rummel 07-20-2017 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by CumminsCoalRoller24/7 (Post 1134081)
EFI uses a V2 that hooks to the OBD ll port- to start you give your info- year make model tire size mods etc. also advise your power goal- in your case you want a MPG tune. They have a single tune or 5 tune Package they will send. When the V2 is hooked up it will reflash the computer with the new parameter/tune they created. Once loaded you can use your V2 software to record your driving and send the file to them. They will look at the parameters of what was recorded and can make adjustments to fine tune to exactly what you are looking for. A good reputable tuner will have you dialed in in just a couple flashes tops unless you get really picky

Who would be a good reputable person to get efi live from. I live in PA.

11B/11C 07-20-2017 11:27 PM

doesn't matter where you live. Phil at anarchy, Gordon at innovative and Robert at calibrated are all top notch tuners. Do not get tunes from local Joe who does EFI live even though it's cheaper. I've been there and made that mistake once

CumminsCoalRoller24/7 07-20-2017 11:28 PM

I would make some phone calls to local diesel shops. Read reviews and more reviews. There are several tuners that can do this remotely- they will ship the V2 or whatever piece you purchase with the tunes loaded. If you need a change they can send files via email or you ship back the unit depending on which one you purchase. I've heard good things about Idaho Rob and Silver Bullet tuning. I have not personally run their tunes though

11B/11C 07-21-2017 12:22 AM

Reviews won't tell you much. Anyone who gets EFI live is gonna think it's amazing and write a great review. Until you get tunes from a few different tuners, you have nothing to compare it to. Therefore many people may think they got great tunes from Joe down the street when in reality the tunes are not that great, because they haven't had tunes from a good reputable tuner that really knows what they are doing. There is a reason why reputable tuners charge more, better tunes.

Jmrobinson 07-21-2017 02:00 AM

If you waste your money on a wicked wheel I'll find someone in PA to kick you in nuts and take your 200. Essentially same feeling and your out 200 either way

CumminsCoalRoller24/7 07-22-2017 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by Jmrobinson (Post 1134140)
If you waste your money on a wicked wheel I'll find someone in PA to kick you in nuts and take your 200. Essentially same feeling and your out 200 either way

:lol88:

Zach Rummel 07-23-2017 09:57 PM

So if I get the efi live from someone out of state how will they be able to fine tune it for my truck?

11B/11C 07-23-2017 11:23 PM

A good reputable tuner knows what they are doing. So they know what tunes a stock truck takes and what a truck with performance upgrades takes. Yours being stock, it will be easy to write tunes for it. You can also data log your truck, email the tuner your data log and they can take look at it. Then they can make adjustments if needed.

Zach Rummel 07-25-2017 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by 11B/11C (Post 1134245)
A good reputable tuner knows what they are doing. So they know what tunes a stock truck takes and what a truck with performance upgrades takes. Yours being stock, it will be easy to write tunes for it. You can also data log your truck, email the tuner your data log and they can take look at it. Then they can make adjustments if needed.

Now if I get efi live and get to which I can switch tunes on the fly will I still be able to get a edge insight monitor?

11B/11C 07-25-2017 05:24 PM

Yes. You'll need to get the CSP5 with EFI, it may come with it. But that is a knob that you turn to switch tunes on the fly. You will still be able to have an edge insight CTS, but you cannot switch the tunes with the insight CTS. I have EFI live with the CSP5 and i use the edge insight CTS as well for monitoring.

CumminsCoalRoller24/7 07-25-2017 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by 11B/11C (Post 1134293)
Yes. You'll need to get the CSP5 with EFI, it may come with it. But that is a knob that you turn to switch tunes on the fly. You will still be able to have an edge insight CTS, but you cannot switch the tunes with the insight CTS. I have EFI live with the CSP5 and i use the edge insight CTS as well for monitoring.

same- I have CSP5 switch below my light knob and use CTS2 for gauges.

Zach Rummel 07-26-2017 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by 11B/11C (Post 1134293)
Yes. You'll need to get the CSP5 with EFI, it may come with it. But that is a knob that you turn to switch tunes on the fly. You will still be able to have an edge insight CTS, but you cannot switch the tunes with the insight CTS. I have EFI live with the CSP5 and i use the edge insight CTS as well for monitoring.

Now with the edge insight can infuse that to change my tire size for my speedometer on my truck or can the efi live tuning do it.

CumminsCoalRoller24/7 07-26-2017 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by Zach Rummel (Post 1134319)
Now with the edge insight can infuse that to change my tire size for my speedometer on my truck or can the efi live tuning do it.

uou would use your edge for that- there's a spot to enter tire size and gauge option for recalibrated speed. I wouldn't waste a gauge for that! :police:


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