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01ram2500 04-01-2012 01:04 PM

s360sx or s362sx
 
I posted one thread in the 12v section on accident sorry guys . Any way I know a guy with a couple of turbos , he said he would sell me witch ever one i wanted . but i dont know much about turbos , they both have a A/R of .91 divided ,will they work on my truck , and i am getting ready to put 150 hp sticks in . I know that i have to make an adapter to go from a T-3 to a T-4 flange that is no problem :humm:

cummin_un_glued 04-01-2012 07:09 PM

if they are box stock BW units then the exhaust discharge is a marmon flange not even an hx40 style, also the compressor discharge will be slip not vband. so basicly you can make it work but it will not be a drop it by any means. We sell that exact same turbo but machined to hx40 turbine discharge and vband compressor dischage so that it drops in other then the needed T3-T4.

empty wallet 04-01-2012 07:53 PM

I wouldn't recommend an adapter, will throw the alignment of everything off... down pipe, oil drain, IC boots.

But if it is a marmon flange that's easy fix. The make marmon flange to 4" adapter cost like $15, I modified my hx40 downpipe and welded that in, it looks factory. are they straight or 90* compressor discharge?

01ram2500 04-02-2012 03:29 PM

where can i get the marman adapter ?

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where can i get the marman adapter ? straight

empty wallet 04-02-2012 06:47 PM

racepartsolutions.com is where I got mine. I cut the "hx40" flange off but left a little bit of meat on there to slide in the new flange, I had to di-grind the inside down a little bit too... but I left it free, mounted the flange to the turbo and connected the downpipe to the exhaust and when I had the clearence just right I tacked it up on the truck, removed it and welded it up good. Pic below is after all the hacking, ready to be fit.

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...77315410_n.jpg

You are also going to need a 90* elbow, either metal or silicone... I went with silicone, but the existing IC pipe will be too short :pca1:

cummin_un_glued 04-02-2012 09:01 PM

how much is the guy wanting for the turbos?

01ram2500 04-03-2012 04:29 AM

Thanks for all the info empty wallet , it is very usefull . But I still have a question which one would be best for my truck ? I only pull a 14 ft trailer and every now and then a small goose neck dump trailer . As for the price $650 for each , he gave me my choice between them , their is a guy wanting what ever one I don't want . I see them on eBay for over 700 .

empty wallet 04-03-2012 12:39 PM

I'd go with the 62 but I think the reason he was asking price is because you could probably just buy a t3 footed s300 that is already machined for hx40 dp, the price differance is barely $100 and would save you alot of time and aggrevation... Without running a t4 manifold it really isn't the best idea... an adapter will throw everything off. when I did mine I went with the pdi t4 manifold to the tune of $560 :s:

01ram2500 04-03-2012 04:45 PM

Do you know where I can get the turbo with the T-3 foot with HX-40 dp for that type of money . I'm on a budget, not a hole lot to money work with . And thank you again for all your help.

red_rattlered 04-04-2012 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by cummin_un_glued (Post 878581)
how much is the guy wanting for the turbos?

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01ram2500 04-06-2012 07:24 AM

he wanted 650 each one is already sold

cummin_un_glued 04-06-2012 06:04 PM

thats a fair price for a box unit, ours that have been machined run a couple hundred more

01quadcab 04-06-2012 08:41 PM

.91 ar is going to be laggy. I want to say my 62 is a .85 and I would of liked smaller for running around town

cummin_un_glued 04-06-2012 11:46 PM

.70 = 12cm
.80 = 14cm
.90 = 16cm

lag on a VP truck yes

01ram2500 04-07-2012 08:58 AM

I can get an .83 divided exhaust housing would that be good ? does divide housing help

cummin_un_glued 04-07-2012 12:13 PM

divided does help yes, the .83 a T3?

01ram2500 04-08-2012 07:42 AM

no they ar all t-4 housings , what about drive pressure?

cummin_un_glued 04-08-2012 09:31 AM

i've not seen a .83 T4 divided housing for a S300, not saying that it dosnt exist just i've not heard of anything smaller then a .88 T4. with housings .80 and higher drive pressure would not be any problem. we run .80 gated housings with 68mm turbines in compound sets over 80mm primarys and the internal gate is enough to keep drive pressure at 1.2:1

01ram2500 04-08-2012 10:02 AM

their is no waste on this turbo , when i called to get price of the turbo was priced wiyh the .88 open housing and also gave me a price of the divided .83 and .91 turbo housings. i just thought they were all T-4 foot, he never said that they were T-3. what if i just went with a super HX-40 or would i be out growing it .Later i plan on putting in bigger injectors?

cummin_un_glued 04-09-2012 04:58 PM

thats going to depend on what size injectors you plan on running later, an overall hp goal would make picking the right turbo alot easier

01ram2500 04-09-2012 05:06 PM

Had planed on about 90 to 125 hp injectors .

cummin_un_glued 04-09-2012 05:13 PM

so 450hp ish? a 60mm charger would be fine for that level. being that your truck is an auto i would stay with as small a turbine housing as you can. a HE351 off of a 04.5-07 5.9 wouldnt be a bad option they are 60/60/9cm or if the 9cm housing gives you drive pressure concerns just do a 35/40 hybrid

01ram2500 04-09-2012 05:50 PM

My truck right now has a hy-35 its a 9cm housing they suck , have yo turn my programmer down to pull a 14 ft trailer

cummin_un_glued 04-09-2012 06:06 PM

yes the hy sucks but the HE351 is not the same thing its just the same size turbine housing. the wastegates are totally different.

01ram2500 04-09-2012 06:37 PM

I have a friend that is running the super HX-40 he loves it , spools up well with 150 injectors , his truck is an auto to . By the way thanks for all the help , your info has been very help full , THANKS

cummin_un_glued 04-09-2012 07:48 PM

no problem

jkidd 04-14-2012 11:06 AM

he351 is better than the super 40 except for potential drive pressure issues.

the .83 is a T4 and factory BW for the 68mm turbine. It will spool faster than the .91, but you can run into drive pressure issues. the .80 t3 is a better solution as it is wastegated so you can use a smaller turbine to spool up and then the wastegate opens to get 30-405 more flow out of the engine simulating a 1.10 housing thus keeping drive pressure low.

Drive pressure above 1.2: 1.0 boost will rob HP. thats why you want to tune the wastegate to open where ever the turbo compressors map is most efficient and flows the most air. Raising Boost pressure above that mark will actually flow less air with a greater restriction on both intake and exhaust = hotter air and more pumping losses.

Jacob


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