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Smittyloopster 02-29-2012 05:19 PM

Good Or Bad Upgrade
 
Hey Everybody. I have found a BD Super B S300 57MM turbo. and a set of DDP 150 HP injectors. Just asking if that would be a good air to fuel combo. :humm:

any input would be great.

Smittyloopster 03-03-2012 09:27 AM

well i guess i will let you know.:pca1:

diesel pap 03-03-2012 09:40 AM

that should work good.:tu:

empty wallet 03-03-2012 07:57 PM

I think it will be fine what are the specs of the hot side?

Smittyloopster 03-04-2012 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by empty wallet (Post 866636)
I think it will be fine what are the specs of the hot side?

57/65/14

Smittyloopster 03-06-2012 11:06 AM

ok so my 57 turbo find fell through. but i found a 66/74/14!!! what is this going to do different than the 57, will i need head stud.:humm:

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did get the injectors already. but haven't put them in.:yeah:

turbo2332 03-06-2012 11:10 AM

difference will be a MASSIVE amount more lag! that is a very large turbo the super b is a step up from stock
your stock turbo is a 56/58/12

Smittyloopster 03-06-2012 11:30 AM

Yea I really have the 54/58/9 (hy35) so its going to be a big jump. I am not really worried about lag time. but I am sure the people behind me will be pissed!!:rocking:

turbo2332 03-06-2012 11:40 AM

oky doke what ever you think is best...:argh:
if you had a common rail it would be a slightly different synario

Diesel Dawgs Performance 03-06-2012 11:59 AM

You will need larger injecrors than 150s with that Turbo. And its going to be a lag monster

Luke

Smittyloopster 03-06-2012 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Diesel Dawgs Performance (Post 867885)
You will need larger injecrors than 150s with that Turbo. And its going to be a lag monster

Luke

Well I got a buddy with the 66. Spool is a little slow. But he is only running 100 HP sticks.

H.R.D 03-06-2012 02:40 PM

You will have almost no acceleration low down. I would advice against it, or get some 200hp + sticks.

Smittyloopster 03-06-2012 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by H.R.D (Post 867975)
You will have almost no acceleration low down. I would advice against it, or get some 200hp + sticks.


Originally Posted by Diesel Dawgs Performance (Post 867885)
You will need larger injecrors than 150s with that Turbo. And its going to be a lag monster

Luke

Advice taken, once i get it all hooked up and see how it runs. what do yall suggest on injector size???

Smittyloopster 03-08-2012 05:47 AM

Ok 150 HP injectors installed... Talk About A Wake Up!!! And A BIG Jump In MPG!!! So the More I think about it the More I want A smaller Turbo.

I have a Free Mind and its Open for suggestions....:humm: Just to sale or Trade This 66/74/14 non-gated turbo:c:

RAW 03-08-2012 07:19 AM

Maybe it needs a s475 feeding air into it, Compound it! I'll never run a single again after having my compounds.

Smittyloopster 03-08-2012 07:29 AM

So Now you Got My Mind going!!! could I use my HY35 For Feeding the 66???

RAW 03-08-2012 07:41 AM

Negative, you always want a bigger turbo feeding a smaller one. Maybe your 66 feeding an HY, could be similar to BD's Tow "Twins". I wouldn't use an HY though, especially for how cheap a HX can be picked up.

Smittyloopster 03-08-2012 08:58 AM

well i was just looking at what i've got.

RAW 03-08-2012 10:01 AM

Understandable by all means. It might work with the 66 feeding the HY.

Farmboy 2.0 03-08-2012 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Smittyloopster (Post 867958)
Well I got a buddy with the 66. Spool is a little slow. But he is only running 100 HP sticks.

What year is your buddies truck? That turbo will spool uber slow, be hot and smokey, with not alot of boost. And dont plan on trying to tow with it as a single. If you did a 35 over the 66 like Ryan said it should act similar to the bd diesel super b compounds. It wouldnt be a powerhouse but it should spool quickly

Smittyloopster 03-08-2012 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by RAWilliams (Post 868778)
Understandable by all means. It might work with the 66 feeding the HY.

So I bolt up the 66 to my manifold and feed that to the stock 35 I have and supply's boost to my intercooler.?

Originally Posted by Scott@Alligator (Post 868795)
What year is your buddies truck? That turbo will spool uber slow, be hot and smokey, with not alot of boost. And dont plan on trying to tow with it as a single. If you did a 35 over the 66 like Ryan said it should act similar to the bd diesel super b compounds. It wouldnt be a powerhouse but it should spool quickly

He has a 01 HO with 6 speed. FASS 150 and ARD And head studs

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Might have to draw me a simple diagram. I am sure I could do it my self. I have done everything to my truck do far. :rocking:

H.R.D 03-08-2012 04:01 PM

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The smaller charger will bolt up to the manifold while the larger charger bolts up to the smaller charger....There is usually more brackets to help support the large charger as well.

empty wallet 03-08-2012 07:52 PM

A 66 in a compound setup vs. a 66 as a single is day and night... I think going from the idea of a 66 as a single to that of a bottom charger is kind of crazy. I guess depending on exactly which 66 you have and exactly what you want from your truck is mainly what will decide the difference.

I'm guessing if it's an "off the shelf" Borg warner like mine to run as single you will need T4 manifold ($500), some bigger injectors (atleast $500), and custom fab yourself an hx40 downpipe with the 4.21" flange. What the compounds would take to do yourself I couldn't say but it looks complicated lol

RAW 03-08-2012 09:02 PM

Check post #21 in this thread:
https://www.dieselbombers.com/5-9l-2...urbos-2-a.html

Smittyloopster 03-09-2012 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by empty wallet (Post 869030)
A 66 in a compound setup vs. a 66 as a single is day and night... I think going from the idea of a 66 as a single to that of a bottom charger is kind of crazy. I guess depending on exactly which 66 you have and exactly what you want from your truck is mainly what will decide the difference.

I'm guessing if it's an "off the shelf" Borg warner like mine to run as single you will need T4 manifold ($500), some bigger injectors (atleast $500), and custom fab yourself an hx40 downpipe with the 4.21" flange. What the compounds would take to do yourself I couldn't say but it looks complicated lol

its actually a custom built from Indy Turbo Diesel Injection. specs are 66/74/14 non-Gated. The guy I bought it off of just was selling it because it was to big for his towing class. The More i think about it I am Really just about to trade it for a 62 or at the most a 64.

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and i only have the t3 flange

Smittyloopster 03-12-2012 12:23 PM

Just an up date I got the 66 installed yesterday. Waiting on my down pipe to come in and looks like I will be doing some custom pipe work for the inter cooler hook up. Here is a couple photos.
http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/...r/788f03a2.jpg
http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/...r/e273de79.jpg

01quadcab 03-13-2012 01:18 AM

3rd gen setup that thing is going to surge on you and be a laggy pos to drive around. seen it too many times vp's just don't have the ability to make it work like a 12v does. put an hx 35 with it so you can drive not look like a tool

Diesel Dawgs Performance 03-13-2012 01:31 AM

I thinks he's got to find that out the hard way.

Luke

mysterync 03-13-2012 07:58 AM

Rofl....gonna hate that setup. Better be looking for a bigger injector. Wont be long till things start breaking either lol

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RAW 03-13-2012 09:49 AM


Better be looking for a bigger injector
Just one? :humm:


:lol:

mysterync 03-13-2012 10:05 AM

Yup , just one ...it makes the system more balanced lol



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Smittyloopster 03-13-2012 01:57 PM

Found a guy that's going to trade his 64 for this 66 I got. Is this going to be better??

Diesel Dawgs Performance 03-13-2012 02:33 PM

A 64 will be much better. If its a 64/74 it will still be very lagy

Luke

empty wallet 03-13-2012 08:14 PM

give her some fuel. not sure how that setup is going to treat you, but I'd guess not well because you just aren't giving it the fuel it will need to light that turbo :pca1:

01quadcab, what makes you say his will surge? the lack of fuel or is it just that specific turbo? the fact that it's t3? Just curious because I have no surge issues with mine.

oudive 03-13-2012 10:06 PM

OP,

I put a super B special and a set of 7x.010 with added lift on prior to my compounds. It was fun on the highway, but it got old between lights with hills. At the time I ran a smarty on level 4, edge juice with attitude on 4x1 and hand calculated 21 mpg's on the highway. Needless to say, I sold that setup and now have compounds. If your still looking at a larger turbo, have you looked at a 62/?/?/ I would think it would spool faster than a 64/71/14 would for sure. just my two cents....

oudive

Smittyloopster 03-22-2012 05:57 AM

Well thank you for all Your input! I finally found a good trade. Got a Holset HX40 Super Pro. Charger Had 12,000 miles on it. got it finally put on last night. The truck runs A LOT BETTER... Sounds Different too... Just jacking around last night I saw 43 PSI on the boost gauge and never seen anything above 1055 on the EGT. the Turbo spools ok. I am Very Pleased...:rocking:

Just A Question Does Any one know the Specs on the HX40 Super. I guess I could have measured when I had it apart but I didnt..:humm:

empty wallet 03-22-2012 08:26 PM

60/65/16 on the hx40


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