SMARTY Settings
 

Ok, I've been playin with the Smarty for the last couple days. The question I have is that I have run all of the setting between economy and wide open, settings 2-9 and they all feel exactly the same and my 0-60mph times are almost identical on all of them.

Not complaining because it really did wake the truck up in the low end where I needed it, just don't understand why they're all so similar in performance.

have u updated it? i had a friend who bout one and wasnt satisfied with it. ended up salein it to another friend, he updated the software and said it made a world of a difference.

I,ve been told bigger injectors say 75-100 make a big difference.:tu:

Injectors do make a difference but, the settings 2-9 are all the same power wise with or with out timing but throttle response and torque is there sooner on the higher settings.

jazz if that is true why would his 0-60 times be almost identical? if his torque was lower on the lower levels shouldnt it affect 0-60?

Smarty for the 24v is only like 75 hp so there might not be than much of a difference between the levels or am I wrong on the horsepower.

I have a smarty and wow when I go from 2 to 9 setting the truck becomes a monster and I haven't upgraded it yet. Have you set your timing, torque and duration to high yet.:c:

They were all the same, I dyno tested each one lol. There may have been some minor changes in power band location but all in all It was the same.
I generally lost about 40-70 RWHP with the smarty depending on level but it made the truck much more fun to drive!

Are you losing fuel pressure? Could that be why you are not seeing more power. Running out of fuel supply. Just an idea.

Smarty Chip is 140 horsepower and 400 ft lbs

Guys, On a VP truck the max power for a smarty is MAYBE 60 RWHP at most.

Thats what I thought but wanted someone to back me up on it. thanks

Its capable of that number with supporting mods>

Anytime bud, As with any box that does not tap the wire power increase is limited. The truck may feel like it makes 140 more but not the case.
It affects timing and other ECM maps which in turn equate to the butt dyno going off the chart. It really tells the factory equipment to fuel harder on the bottom end. Hence the bigger the injectors the more mmmph off the line. In the top end it does nothing but kill your power. I know at some point folks attributed the power loss to the dramatic low end fueling starving the pump for fuel but that theory seems somewhat unlikely once we understand the concept of the VP-44

O ic do u get them supporting mods> by up grading it.

The smarty is what it is out of the box. You have the VP smarty and the CR smarty. I'm guessing you saw the CR smarty's power ratings. In all honesty the smarty kills VP horsepower.

I think by supporting mods he means like injectors, turbo, etc.

The truck will make "more" with supporting mods, but nothing near what it makes with an actual fueling box. The Smarty for instance on a truck with 150 horse sticks, a 64/14 and other basic mods might make 390 to 400 but with a edge drag comp we'll see that number around 500+

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Yea I was a Little Lost there lol

A friend installed a smarty on my truck a few years ago to let me see what it would do. I had the edge comp box and you could only run it on certain levels. Dont know if it made anymore power over the edge but it sure did blow alot of black smoke. Didnt know it at the time but I now have the high idle and I like it. Haven't got to see the 3 cylinder high idle yet though.

Well then Smarty kind of sucks then. But Cummins always said that smarty was the answer for them trucks. :scare2:

The Smarty does exactly what I need it to do, it fuels hard on the low end. I need it to get heavy trailers moving in the fields. Top end power means nothin to me. This trucks never goes over 85mph anyway.

This thing powers hard all the way to highway speeds, so I'm a happy camper. Iwas just curious as to why no differences between the levels was all.

smarty for the vp trucks are great towing egt wise.:tu:

Yes heavyhauler that's what I was getting at and he just agreeed with what I said. Thank you for stating that before I got a chance.:c:

Uncle bubba , I never got a straight answer on that. I never saw any change worth writing home over between the levels. I ran it till I sold the VP truck, It was much more fun to drive and it's the all out best mod for a daily driver not looking for piles of extra HP

Thanks. For what I use this truck for I'll never tap the pump wire again. Been through 3 VP's in this truck and i hope to not see a fourth replacement. I'm convinced that that tapping the wire is just more then these pumps will handle in the long run. That Comp was fun to play with but that's to much money and frustration in my world for fun. The fueling with those boxes is just to radical.

I never had any issues BUT i was using a stealth cover. Some folks just have bad luck. I've got a customer bought a Advance Auto rebuilt Vp44 and I've changed that dang thing probably 10 times.

How much horsepower will the CaTCHER add to my 98.5-02 engine?





First of all, the power added by the CaTCHER depends upon the mods done to the engine.
That makes this question even more difficult to answer. On a stock engine typically we see an
Hp increase at the rear wheels of about 60 Hp.( Is there still such a thing, a STOCK truck??? )

With taller injectors the Hp gain increases. How much? I don't know! That depends upon the
injectors, turbo, intake , exhaust... You got the picture. The best mod combined with a
CaTCHER is without doubt a good set of injectors.

Fuel pump wire tapping boxes WITHOUT added timing come next if you're after serious Hp.
In that kind of scenario the CaTCHER becomes very noticeable in the top Hp range.
I have customers that have gained over 75 Hp with that kind of stack above all other stacks
they had tried before. If you have ears...

The most difficult stack with the CaTCHER is with boxes that add their own timing.
For those cases we've stuffed the softwares without added timing into Smarty.
Yet, I have to say, we're not taking the full advantage of the dynamic timing the ECM can
provide.
It has been proved many times by now. The CaTCHER stacked with a fuel only box provide
the highest Hp gain. More than what a timing&fuel box that can't be stacked with anything will
provide.


From smartys site.:tu:

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10 times..:scare2: Customer for life.

Done any more playing with settings? I got a Smarty the other day as well, and looking/listening for good settings. Seems my truck LOVES some extra timing.

Mine Did:w2:

I've noticed a difference in stacking mine with an edge comp, smarty on 3 and edge on 3 seems to be a nice dd. Smarty on 1 max timing 1 duration and edge on 1 helped my fuel economy Ive got a 150horse injectors and a phatshaft 64 with some other odds and ends done. I still have a heck of a time getting above 40 psi of boost though...it helped my bottom end, now I cant shift fast enough :s:

With the Smarty on 3, or 5, I can hit 45 with ease.
Question on the TORQUE settings. Is this how to eliminate torque management, or what exactly does this change?

Re: SMARTY Settings
 

It tweaks torque management

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The higher the number on torque the harder the trans will shift. Would be a real good way to test out the trans. in my opinion.:c:

I may play with that this weekend, which for me started tonight! :jump:
Seems it's pretty aggressive with the Smarty on 5, and EJWA on 2.

With the stack are you getting anymore boost RAW?

Spools quicker maybe, but overall no. I have the W/G set on the HX35, and I try not to let it go over 45ish. Still no head studs. A lot more fun testing will be had with the head studs, and 150's.

I here ya. Nice setup on your compounds I saw on your other thread. Got me looking at every tractor i passed in the fields on the way to work. :humm:

not trying to hijack a thread here. but i updated my smart CR with smartys TNT software. i noticed a difference in that alone. when i added my turbo it really woke up. (compared to bully dog triple dog w/crazy larry). i had my smarty set on stage 7 for several months an just the other day had some time to play with it. i put my truck back to stock. an could barely break 22 psi. haha then i put it on level 9 an i could tell a pretty signigicant difference from level 7 in the aspect of turbo lag. used to if i was runnin 55ish an pulled out to pass someone my turbo wouldnt light until i was beside the other vehicle. (resulting in a hellacious cloud for all behind me) whereas on level 9 it got right up an went so to speak. the turbo light right up an my truck was just at a haze by the time i pulled into the passing lane. :pca1:

however. on level 9 everytime i shift my truck hazes a little. whereas on level 7 if i wasnt tryin to then it wouldnt.

Re: SMARTY Settings
 

Cr's are not vp's... big difference in smartys

I have a comp with a smarty and 150' s. Comp off, smarty maxed, I can run 40 psi all day. Smart off, comp maxed, I hold 35 psi. comp definitely makes a difference on the top end, its dead on the bottom end w/o the smarty. Currently I am running comp 5x1, smarty lvl 4, torque 6, duration 5. I have not had much time to play, as I just did the comp. But this results in smooth power from bottom end to top. With the smarty, if I put the comp on sub 5, it is way too much smoke for on the road, got cussed out twice for filling cars full... guess its time for a stack. Smarty torque settings are for how strong you want it to hit when it hits. I roll 1600 pretty quick, waiting.on my manifold, turbo's in the garage

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