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dodge bomber 12-08-2010 03:09 PM

stacking chips making power
 
so this is my first cummins i got a 01 24v and i understand what the chips do i had a 6.5 chevy i did alot of work to but i wanted more power so when you say you stack chips how does that work, anyone know? when you start doing that how much you need to do to your engine? im going to probly end up doing as much as i can to beat my buddys gas job tundra because hes ragging on cummins pretty bad and im going to shut him down stat for bragging rights so i want to do everything with out huge engine over haul

GuyWithA24Valve 12-08-2010 09:32 PM

If you have 2 programmers that load through the OBD II port, you upload one to the computer, then you unplug it and load the tune from the other one too.
It you have a module like an Edge, then you use a programmer that plugs into the OBD II port and load that on top of the Edge

prison 12-08-2010 09:34 PM

just hook a chain to the back while your cummins is stock. teach his tundra a lesson

RAW 12-08-2010 11:49 PM

Stacking chips is NOT the answer to huge power. You need your mechanical components to support the fuel. Let's say you stack a Smarty and Edge Comp. That's A LOT of fuel, but your air is still minimal. It will give you smoke, which is wasted fuel, accompanied with high EGT's (bad).

Diesel Dummy 12-09-2010 02:51 AM

stacking on a vp truck is ok but for the gains go with one good box like an adrenaline or edge comp, then its like rawilliams said do the mechanical things from there on. Stacking will get you to much timing if not done right and by then its not worth the money you have spent.

dodge bomber 12-09-2010 09:45 AM

i was looking to get injectors, vp, good lift pump but i cant do it all at once i was going to get a 150 lift pump then later 120-150 injectors but i read you need a better vp for that and if i dont have a programmer yet will one thing get hurt if i put it in befor the other. i know i can get away with the lift pump first but if i cant get the others what order can i go without hurting one without the other?

johnyb59 12-09-2010 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by GuyWithA24Valve (Post 663916)
If you have 2 programmers that load through the OBD II port, you upload one to the computer, then you unplug it and load the tune from the other one too.

no............

Farmboy 2.0 12-09-2010 10:23 AM

Get a lift pump first and and gauges like fuel pressure, boost, and egt. Plus a good stage 2 air intake and a good 4 inch exhaust. Unless you go with like a edge juice with attitude programmer which has a built in set of gauges that monitors all that. Then you could go with injectors of that size and then I would look into a turbo like a 62/12 or 14 and a exhaust manifold.....

And you cant load 2 tuners through the obd2 port which ever one is more aggressive will override the least aggressive one since you cant have to separate lines on code in the ecm

Diesel Dawgs Performance 12-09-2010 11:06 AM

Re: stacking chips making power
 
^^^ Agreed

johnyb59 12-09-2010 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Scott@Alligator (Post 664187)
Get a lift pump first and and gauges like fuel pressure, boost, and egt. Plus a good stage 2 air intake and a good 4 inch exhaust. Unless you go with like a edge juice with attitude programmer which has a built in set of gauges that monitors all that. Then you could go with injectors of that size and then I would look into a turbo like a 62/12 or 14 and a exhaust manifold.....

And you cant load 2 tuners through the obd2 port which ever one is more aggressive will override the least aggressive one since you cant have to separate lines on code in the ecm

Thats not quite correct. Which ever downloader you use will erase or overwrite what is in the ecm to begin with. Example a superchip will overwrite a smarty then you will have the power of the superchip, not the smarty.

dodge bomber 12-09-2010 06:35 PM

now whats the whole reason behind a aftermarket exhaust manifold im a fabricator so i will just make one myself to save that money. i know that you want the exhaust to flow threw but do you want to make it all equal lenght or once again just so it flows smooth.

Zane 12-09-2010 07:40 PM

lol:lol88::spit::D Let me know how that works out for you!:tu:

dodge bomber 12-09-2010 10:39 PM

ahh loook a comedian..... it was a question if you know somthingi dont know dont just laugh about it enlighten me or you just though it was a funny idea and you dont know anything?

RAW 12-09-2010 10:44 PM


now whats the whole reason behind a aftermarket exhaust manifold im a fabricator so i will just make one myself to save that money. i know that you want the exhaust to flow threw but do you want to make it all equal lenght or once again just so it flows smooth.
The reason is for less restriction between the head and the turbo. Unlike a headder for a gas job, a headder for a diesel isn't the answer, not in my opinion. There is a lot of heat loss due to more pipe and surface area. Heat is energy, energy is power.

Farmboy 2.0 12-09-2010 10:46 PM

The reason for a exhaust manifold is the help get restriction out of the exhaust flow and the engin. The factory exhaust manifolds are extemely restrictive... So by going with a aftermarket manifold we can drop egts and also help with turbo spool up and reduce back pressure in the engine

prison 12-09-2010 10:50 PM

also a header holds more air which means it would take longer to spool up. to dodge bomber if you look at some of the ATS exhaust manifolds that is the idea. if you can fabricate headers you can fabricate a cummins exhaust manifold and Zane just because you don't have the skills to do it doesn't mean someone else doesn't

Farmboy 2.0 12-09-2010 10:57 PM

The aftermarket manifolds also have expansion joints which helps keep them from breaking when they expand and contract.

prison 12-09-2010 11:09 PM

Scott your the ham to my eggs :c:

PSD-BLACK-CLOUD 12-09-2010 11:18 PM

What if he did a diablo power puck its designd to be used with a programer? I think

Farmboy 2.0 12-10-2010 10:39 AM

with like a smarty type programmer or like a egde?

dodge bomber 12-12-2010 03:12 PM

thank you the info you guys gave me is very useful

Chezgetssome 12-17-2010 05:34 AM

that is good info to know about the stacking of chips... didn't know that...

jrraw23 12-17-2010 12:41 PM

Not to hijack, but this is pretty much on the same lines . . . if you have a quadzilla, why does everyone stack a smarty with it? The quadzilla is custom programmable right? Wouldn't you just hook your laptop to it and make it do what you want it to do rather than paying for a smarty as well as the quad?

cumminsmoke 05-22-2012 07:40 PM

what a good stack with the quadzilla


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