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Say no to Cooling Mist
Had a problem with the water meth system I installed on my truck a couple of months ago on Friday right before we got ready to to go the dunes. The check valve stuck open and let the water meth drain inot my engine over night :argh: and it was hydro locked first thing in the morning:booo:. Lucky I recognized the hydro lock right away and pulled my intake off and vacuumed it out and turned the engine over by hand a dozen times to try and get the rest of the water meth out. got the engine running again and was off to play at Amargosa dunes. But before that I had placed a call to Cooling mist where I purchased the water meth kit and talk about a bunch of crap. Why is it some salespeople think that all people who buy aftermarket stuff for there trucks are dumb and uneducated in the diesel world. I know that not all of us on here are diesel mechiancs but I am, and for this a hole to tell me that it is impossible for his kit to do this is just ignorant. First off anything that is mechanical or electrical will fail at some piont in time. In my case it was just two short months. So long story short I am here to spread the word about this d head and go on with life and try to make some business that would have went his way go in the other direction.:gunner::fu1::asshat:
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wow bum deal, sounds like my chat with BD about my turbo. i guess i half assed my install too!
hope you had fun in the dunes |
wasn't a half ass install but then again that is the way some of the vendors treat people so they don't have to warranty their junk.
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is the SNOW better?
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not to hijack the thread, but the folks at BD have never been anything but extremely helpful and nice on the phone. I havent heard anything bad about snow, but havent heard anything either way about your brand yank
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Snow Performance makes the best Water/Meth Kit on the Market. :U:
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as a failsafe you should always install the tank lower than the nozzles,,,,,, prevents anyones products from screwin up your ride.:w2:
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Originally Posted by yankeeflatsdiesel
(Post 323352)
Had a problem with the water meth system I installed on my truck a couple of months ago on Friday right before we got ready to to go the dunes. The check valve stuck open and let the water meth drain inot my engine over night :argh: and it was hydro locked first thing in the morning:booo:. Lucky I recognized the hydro lock right away and pulled my intake off and vacuumed it out and turned the engine over by hand a dozen times to try and get the rest of the water meth out. got the engine running again and was off to play at Amargosa dunes. But before that I had placed a call to Cooling mist where I purchased the water meth kit and talk about a bunch of shit. Why is it some salespeople think that all people who buy aftermarket stuff for there trucks are dumb and uneducated in the diesel world. I know that not all of us on here are diesel mechiancs but I am, and for this asshole to tell me that it is impossible for his kit to do this is just ignorant. First off anything that is mechanical or electrical will fail at some piont in time. In my case it was just two short months. So long story short I am here to spread the word about this dickhead and go on with life and try to make some business that would have went his way go in the other direction.:gunner::fu1::asshat:
Its too bad you only show one side of the story. You were very upset about the issue when you called. you would not let me get a word in edgewise. You continually yelled, called me names, told me my product is junk and threatened me. I do my best for every customer but its difficult to be helpful when every other word out of your mouth from the first one I cant even repeat on this forum. I wanted to work with with from the begining but you would have nothing of it. In the end I shipped you a new checkvalve and you never bothered to even send the "defective" on back. I wish you luck with your truck, I realize you were just mad about your situation...however I would appreciate not taking it out on me in the future. I want to take care of my customers as I said, but its difficult when you will not let me. anyway, if you have any other issues and need help dont hesitate to call us. |
thats putting it into perspective
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Cooling Mist is the only company pushing the technological envelope with their product, supplies clearly superior electronics, the best prices, and their tech support is second to none. I've never gone longer than a couple hours without a helpful, and lucid, email.
How does a check valve go bad and hydrolock the engine? My system has a pump and solenoid in between the reservoir and the intake; they'd both have to leak to get any substantial water into the engine. I also have the lines running up to get to the intake, so gravity would prevent any drainage into the engine at rest even if there was no check valve. On your system I take it that the tubing running into the intake is all above the intake, and the water in between the solenoid and check valve was sufficient to hydrolock the engine? I don't see how this can happen without the installation being questionable. I have had nothing but positive experiences with Cooling Mist and nobody else even has anything I'd consider buying. (Although Cooling Mist does need to spend some more capital into making their software better.) |
that or i thought the pump stuck on
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Originally Posted by Begle1
(Post 353457)
How does a check valve go bad and hydrolock the engine? My system has a pump and solenoid in between the reservoir and the intake; they'd both have to leak to get any substantial water into the engine. I also have the lines running up to get to the intake, so gravity would prevent any drainage into the engine at rest even if there was no check valve. This customer had our trunkmount tank where the pump sat on top of the tank, it was in his bed of the truck I believe. He said that his truck was parked in the garage and the water traveled up the pump and drained into his engine from there (over night). I have never seen a situation where a pump was higher than the tank and the tank was lower than the nozzle and somehow by itself the entire tank drained into the engine. There is an explanation for everything and Im sure if we would have been able to talk further we would have figured it out. I have no doubt the customer had some sort of problem I just regret that I do not know for sure what the problem was and that the customer had an issue at all. |
is your pumps a pusher pump like devels own
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our pumps are diaphram pumps, they work in the same way as most WI mfg kits.
David |
Originally Posted by Begle1
(Post 353457)
Cooling Mist is the only company pushing the technological envelope with their product, supplies clearly superior electronics, the best prices, and their tech support is second to none. I've never gone longer than a couple hours without a helpful, and lucid, email.
How does a check valve go bad and hydrolock the engine? My system has a pump and solenoid in between the reservoir and the intake; they'd both have to leak to get any substantial water into the engine. I also have the lines running up to get to the intake, so gravity would prevent any drainage into the engine at rest even if there was no check valve. On your system I take it that the tubing running into the intake is all above the intake, and the water in between the solenoid and check valve was sufficient to hydrolock the engine? I don't see how this can happen without the installation being questionable. I have had nothing but positive experiences with Cooling Mist and nobody else even has anything I'd consider buying. (Although Cooling Mist does need to spend some more capital into making their software better.) I agree 100%. I have been running water injection for over 120,000 miles without one issue. Snows pumps are over rated, there 200psi pump puts out only 140-160psi with a single injector on it, with two it was in the 120-140 range. Cooling mists 250psi pumps with two LARGE injectors holds all day at 220-230psi. They have been nothing but helpful with everything I have ever needed and continue to be to this day! :rocking: |
" (Although Cooling Mist does need to spend some more capital into making their software better.)"
Does this mean the controller SW or something on the site -shoppingcart/checkout. I am so close to ordering maybe I should wait? Satisfied customers , What kits do you guys run? My SPS is kinda a pig so not sure if I could even use water in daily driving but I guess its worth a try. Maybe If I choke the EX down to 12cm from 14cm it will light quicker and I can use the water to cool on the topend. |
Originally Posted by rivercat
(Post 374852)
" (Although Cooling Mist does need to spend some more capital into making their software better.)"
Does this mean the controller SW or something on the site -shoppingcart/checkout. I am so close to ordering maybe I should wait? Satisfied customers , What kits do you guys run? My SPS is kinda a pig so not sure if I could even use water in daily driving but I guess its worth a try. Maybe If I choke the EX down to 12cm from 14cm it will light quicker and I can use the water to cool on the topend. |
COOLING MIST SUCKS, PERIOD. I had the same thing happen to my truck after sitting for a few hours. I too realized it right away, but not before it lifted the head and I started getting engine oil in my cooling system. By the time I was done I spent almost three grand fixing it. All because the little brass check valve didn't work. My tank was in the tool box in the bed, pump on the frame rail. It's pretty damn hard to find a place lower than the intake to put the tank. I ended up putting an additional electric solenoid valve in the system. I since have scrapped the whole $700 bucks worth of crap. I didn't want to sell there junk to someone else. This is the only company other than Holley I've every had a problem with, and I'm 50 yrs old. Screw em.
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First off read the whole thread dude infact the comment that you need better software was added after a bunch of praise and compliments.
Learn some control read James 3 and meditate on it all week... |
Originally Posted by rivercat
(Post 375576)
First off read the whole thread dude infact the comment that you need better software was added after a bunch of praise and compliments.
Learn some control read James 3 and meditate on it all week... David |
Cooling Mist Support
I sure do understand there are 2 sides to every story, but both friends and I have had issues with Coolingmist and their superior attitude. i think their hardware is good and their software is adequate. We all get mad when our stuff doesnt work, which doesnt mean we can act like idiots. But when we are upset and we get treated like we dont know what we are doing, it only escalates our frustration levels. Why cant we all just get along! Tim
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ive installed 4 cooling mist kits on trucks over a period of a yr and never had a problem with them, sorry something happened
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