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underpressure! 02-18-2009 10:13 PM

The baddest box out there!!!!
 
I am looking to buy a new box for my 01 and have been looking for a really long time. I have looked at Quad,Edge,Bullydog,TST,BlueChip and many others cant find what i'm looking for...I basically want the baddest box on the market to help me get to the 700hp mark any suggestions???

Diesel Dawgs Performance 02-18-2009 10:21 PM

Adrenaline :U:

Red_Rattler 02-18-2009 10:31 PM

P-Pump.... :w2: But seriously though Smarty with TST Competition box :humm:

oklahoma_6speed 02-18-2009 10:54 PM

i would have to say.. quad adren....and a monster pump.. or dragon......thats the goal i am after...i need a pump and i am there....

89silverbullet 02-18-2009 11:46 PM

adrenaline

01quadcab 02-19-2009 12:08 AM

if your not running any nos I would say time for a p-pump

Fishin2Deep4U 02-19-2009 01:30 AM

Adrenaline has definitely made the most power for us.

Drag Comp or Juice on 6x5 is a close second.

Redline is next stacked with an EZ.

TST Comp/ EZ is next and the lowest was TST Comp/ Smarty.

Dave

Jazz 02-19-2009 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by Fishin2Deep4U (Post 290675)
Adrenaline has definitely made the most power for us.

Drag Comp or Juice on 6x5 is a close second.

Redline is next stacked with an EZ.

TST Comp/ EZ is next and the lowest was TST Comp/ Smarty.

Dave

I was going to say redline ez stack. I have had the tst comp, drag comp, redline, Smarty and now the adrenaline. I've run them all on my truck but never dyno'd all the combo's. Sounds like Dave has run the numbers:U: Thanks for this info:c:

underpressure! 02-19-2009 03:37 PM

Has quad worked all the bugs out of the fuel pressure gauge? And what about an ADR with a Smarty stacked on top.....yall think that would get me to 700hp?:humm:

oklahoma_6speed 02-19-2009 05:29 PM

I WAS THINKING about the quad. smarty stack......... all i can say.. is better get a monster pump... my quad milks mine dry...

Gixxer_750 02-19-2009 08:49 PM

the redline stack is flat out nasty...but if you're going for 700 on fuel only, p-pumping it would probally be the way to go...gus at fbd runs something to the tune of 810hp, diesel only...im pretty sure he is running the monster pump w/ the redline, with a nasty set of twins....

Fishin2Deep4U 02-20-2009 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by Jazz (Post 290705)
I was going to say redline ez stack. I have had the tst comp, drag comp, redline, Smarty and now the adrenaline. I've run them all on my truck but never dyno'd all the combo's. Sounds like Dave has run the numbers:U: Thanks for this info:c:

Yeah, the Redline works or doesn't. Just depends on the individual truck.

Dave

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Originally Posted by underpressure! (Post 290961)
Has quad worked all the bugs out of the fuel pressure gauge? And what about an ADR with a Smarty stacked on top.....yall think that would get me to 700hp?:humm:

No. But that's just my opinion. Every box I have ever stacked a Smarty with has lost power. Yes, it has better off idle response, but peak power is definitely down. Not to mention it loses time at the strip. And consider this is figured against a truck running factory torque management vs. the Smarty and no torque management.

Don;t get me wrong, the Smarty works for a bunch of the people that use it. We just could not get the bugs worked out for us. That's just the way things go. I am sure Edge and other companies don't care what I think either.

Dave

Gixxer_750 02-20-2009 07:55 AM

it's proven almost everytime that the smarty makes you loose a little off the top end...usually people are running it in a daily driver setting, where (im guessing) most of us spend the majority of our time...i personally will run it with a big single around town just to enhance the dd aspect...come track time, it's coming off...

underpressure! 02-20-2009 09:34 AM

What would you stack the redline with......an ez or could I run my drag comp and not tap the pump so it would basically be an ez? I already have the twins to put on my truck but I am going to fab my own piping so they are not done yet.....and the monster pump is already on the truck....I dont know why my sig isnt showing up?

Gixxer_750 02-20-2009 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by underpressure! (Post 291471)
What would you stack the redline with......an ez or could I run my drag comp and not tap the pump so it would basically be an ez? I already have the twins to put on my truck but I am going to fab my own piping so they are not done yet.....and the monster pump is already on the truck....I dont know why my sig isnt showing up?

sig shows up in your first post...did you dyno w/ the smarty? if so, a try doing it without...my guess is you wont have to change boxes to hit 700...what size single were you running?

underpressure! 02-20-2009 01:18 PM

I never did dyno with the smarty off maybe I should take it off and just run the drag comp and see what it puts down... with the smarty it made 654hp/1287tq i don't need much to get 700 bout 50hp or so! I am running Industrial Injections Silver bullet 66/74/14 at wot i can see bout 64psi and thats pushing the limits of that turbo....however i have an S4T to put under that in twins so maybe that will get me there just by getting it put on. Thanks for all the input guys!:U:

Gixxer_750 02-20-2009 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by underpressure! (Post 291584)
I never did dyno with the smarty off maybe I should take it off and just run the drag comp and see what it puts down... with the smarty it made 654hp/1287tq i don't need much to get 700 bout 50hp or so! I am running Industrial Injections Silver bullet 66/74/14 at wot i can see bout 64psi and thats pushing the limits of that turbo....however i have an S4T to put under that in twins so maybe that will get me there just by getting it put on. Thanks for all the input guys!:U:

geez...that twin setup will be sick....id say you got it with those twins...try running it with the smarty off w/ just the drag and you should see higher #'s...post up when you get that thing on the rollers

underpressure! 02-20-2009 03:22 PM

I would like to get a box that would let me hit 4k and maybe squeeze some more out of it and then maybe a 250 shot of nitrous and go for 900hp someday!:U:

Gixxer_750 02-20-2009 07:34 PM

id say get the redline then...call gus at fbd and talk to him about his setup...no one knows more about vp powered trucks than him...

Diesel Dawgs Performance 02-20-2009 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Gixxer_750 (Post 291767)
id say get the redline then...call gus at fbd and talk to him about his setup...no one knows more about vp powered trucks than him...



lol lol lol lol :lol: :lol: :lol:

Gixxer_750 02-20-2009 11:26 PM

sorry, guy above me must know more....he's made fun of me once before and never bothered explaining, maybe he can explain this time...just so my feelings arent hurt even more

Diesel Dawgs Performance 02-20-2009 11:58 PM

Im laughing because of your statement. "No one knows more about VP powered trucks than him". Im sure there are "alot" more people that knows more. And I'd like to see some Dyno Sheets where he made 810hp on fuel only. :pca1:

1SlowCTD 02-21-2009 01:56 AM


Originally Posted by Gixxer_750 (Post 291767)
id say get the redline then...call gus at fbd and talk to him about his setup...no one knows more about vp powered trucks than him...

You're statement is extremely comical. If you're talking bout the very same gus that i think you are, you may wanna do some research. That truck he drives was built by Olee Poole. You know the owner of powered by poole. Second, gus doesnt even build VP pumps, he relabels mike's hit or miss monster pumps. There is a reason people like gus, have been allowed to decieve people like you for so long. Its called pure laziness and lack of research. But when you're stuff breaks and he wont answer your calls or emails and then finally calls you leaves you a message that is very distasteful and extremely illegal, ull have learned the hard way.


:argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh:

Fishin2Deep4U 02-21-2009 02:50 AM

You guys are so harsh!

I am glad no one recommended me! :pals:

Dave

Gixxer_750 02-21-2009 12:46 PM

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well to the guy with the slow ctd, one, i never mentioned a thing about him "building" vp pumps (as you so mentioned), I simply mentioned he knows how these trucks work...two, he actually has been the guy who has taken my call, on the weekend (at an odd hour), and given me some advice to fix my rig...so, before you run your mouth, maybe you should "read" what i say and leave your issues behind...to lukediesel, not trying to cause a rumble here, just wanted to let the fellow who started this thread know what was out there and what can be done...im a happy customer and trying to spread the word of my good experiences, that's all...here is a 1/4 mile slip (he was in the 11's) and a dyno sheet..."do your research" and you'll know this was without the giggle juice...so enjoy:U:

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Diesel Dawgs Performance 02-21-2009 04:01 PM

Thanks for the Graphs. Does he have any videos of this run or just a digital graph?

Gixxer_750 02-21-2009 04:46 PM

im not sure about a video of the dyno or a different graph...only vids. i know of are of a couple pulls and a couple 1/4 mile runs....here's one against a viper...

Diesel Dawgs Performance 02-21-2009 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Gixxer_750 (Post 292187)
im not sure about a video of the dyno or a different graph...only vids. i know of are of a couple pulls and a couple 1/4 mile runs....here's one against a viper...
YouTube - Dodge Cummins Smokes Viper

I hope you know that the person driving his truck in the race was Olee Poole. The same Olee Poole that built the engine.



If you don't believe me give Olee a call 704-855-2679

Gixxer_750 02-21-2009 08:27 PM

im not gonna disagree with that...this thread got way sidetracked...i guess ill keep my support for others to myself...just trying to let this guy know what is possible...

Diesel Dawgs Performance 02-21-2009 09:37 PM

Na it was my fault for getting it off track. Your opinions are always welcome here. :U:

1SlowCTD 02-21-2009 09:43 PM

.......................................Nevermind

Diesel Dawgs Performance 02-21-2009 10:36 PM

Just don't believe everything someone tells ya

SmokeN 12 ValvE 02-21-2009 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by Gixxer_750 (Post 292187)
im not sure about a video of the dyno or a different graph...only vids. i know of are of a couple pulls and a couple 1/4 mile runs....here's one against a viper...
YouTube - Dodge Cummins Smokes Viper

That video was the motor that Olee built and was spraying the he!! out of it. The engine has been totally rebuilt from the ground up because of a cracked 53. But it was a local guy who put the bottom end together, not Gus. Don't believe everything he tells you.

The 810hp was actually 807hp corrected on a dynocom.

11.50's are about what 730hp+/- a few


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