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jfd1708 10-07-2008 03:37 PM

New To Diesels Need Help Please.
 
I have a 2001 dodge ram 2500 turbo diesel. The other night I was driving the check engine light came on and the truck died. It would turn over but would not start. I read the codes using the key method and got p1693 and i used a scan tool and got p1688 can anyone help me understand what these mean and where to go from here any help is very much appreciated.

SeaDrive 10-07-2008 03:40 PM

P-1688 is Internal Fuel Injection Pump Controller Failure. Sounds like your VP44 had died on you (VP44=injection pump). Do you have gauges? Fuel pressure?

jfd1708 10-07-2008 04:37 PM

Could it be a bad edge box or ecm? Could it be air in the fuel lines? I disconnected the injector lines to try and prime it again and I had good fuel pressure. Have not checked it with gauges

xzaq103 10-07-2008 04:47 PM

Check the FP. How long has the box been on? Is it a comp or an EZ or?

That code aint good my friend.

jfd1708 10-07-2008 04:55 PM

it is an ez, unknown how long the box has been on i bought the truck and it had the box on it says it was manufactured in 2003.How do I check fuel pressure? Where do I connect the gauges to so I can determine fuel pressure?

Fishin2Deep4U 10-07-2008 05:42 PM

First things first.

Disconnect the EZ. Make sure that's not the issue. Shouldn't be, but checking is free. Check your fuel pressure at one of the test ports in the system. Even though you may have good pressure, you could have a roasted VP.

A fuel pressure gauge should have come standard on the VP44 trucks.

Dave

jfd1708 10-07-2008 06:10 PM

will check the fp and disconnect the ez there is no gauge on the vp
will let you know what happens

Mr.Krabs 10-07-2008 06:31 PM

99% it's your VP,but try the other stuff....
Like fishin' says,there should have been a fuel pressure gauge standard on the trucks,funny to me that we have a "low washer fluid" warning light and nothing to let us know we are killing our 1k+ Injection pump.:argh:

Diesel Dawgs Performance 10-07-2008 06:52 PM

My vote is on the VP.

jfd1708 10-07-2008 08:41 PM

on the vp test port how much pressure should I be getting? If the pump is not primed will i still get a reading on the test port on the vp?

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if it is the vp where is the cheapest and best place to buy a vp?

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is it possible to rebuild the vp? If so where can I purchase a rebuild kit? I seen one on ebay but have no idea if it is right also could it be the fpcm that is bad? I appreciate and thank all of you for your input and information it has been very helpful and I would be very thankful for more input and information.

scottsjeeprolet 10-07-2008 08:51 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Here is a drawing of your components
Attachment 55966
Fuel System Components - 24-valve Cummins Turbo Diesel engine.

1. Fuel Transfer (Lift) Pump
2. Fuel Return Line (to Fuel Tank)
3. Fuel Supply Line (Low Pressure, to Engine)
4. Fuel Heater
5. Water-in-Fuel (WIF) Sensor
6. Fuel FilterlWater Separator
7. IA T Sensor
8. Map (Boost) Sensor
9. Fuel Drain Manifold
10. CKP Sensor
11. CMP Sensor
12. Overflow Valve
13. Drain Valve
14. Fuel Pressure Test Potts
15. ECM
16. ECT Sensor
17. Fuel Injection Pump
18. Throttle Lever Bell Crank and Apps
19, High-Pressure Fuel Lines
20. Fuel Injectors
21. Fuel Heater Temperature Sensor (Thermostat)
22. Oil Pressure Sensor
23. Fuel Injector Connector
24. Drain Tube
25. Intake Manifold Air Heater/Elements

there should be a schrader valve on the banjo bolt at #12's location. You can hook up a test gauge there. Then just bump the starter, the LP should run for about 30 seconds.
You don't want any less than 5psi.
You can't rebuild the VP44, it can only be done by a Bosch rebuilder.

jfd1708 10-07-2008 08:57 PM

thank you i will hook up the gauge and see how much pressure i have. will let everyone know what happened

dukeboy_318 10-12-2008 03:35 PM

im voting vp44, my grandfathers truck done the exact same thing when his went out a couple years ago, the cheapest ive seen them new have been from places like schieds or xtremediesel.com. also give sandrdieselconcepts.com a call. he got my buddy one for 800 bucks new

Diesel Dawgs Performance 10-12-2008 04:00 PM

Cheapest isnt always the best especially on a VP44.

01quadcab 10-12-2008 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by lukesdiesel (Post 223103)
Cheapest isnt always the best especially on a VP44.

:iws:

you want a good vp that will be warrantied when you tap the pump wire. I have found that it's not an if you do but a when you do it.

Diesel Dawgs Performance 10-12-2008 04:11 PM

Blue Chip

Diesel Dawg Performance

dukeboy_318 10-13-2008 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by lukesdiesel (Post 223103)
Cheapest isnt always the best especially on a VP44.

true, these are brand new factory pumps, not rebuilt ones, they just offer them at dealer cost or so they said


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