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Jazz 03-12-2008 06:29 PM

Smarty Adrenaline ?
 
Has anyone tried to stack the Smarty with the Adrenaline? Also does anyone know how much timing is added with the adrenaline. I'm sure the smarty would have to be on even #'s. I may have to try that tomorrow and see how it runs. Thanks for any info or Ideas

DB Admin 03-12-2008 06:39 PM

My God !

You Never get Enough do you ! :D

Jazz 03-12-2008 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by DieselMinded (Post 131147)
My God !

You Never get Enough do you ! :D

You know it Buddy:choochoo:

You been talkin with my wife too:w2:

mysterync 03-12-2008 07:15 PM

Its really pointless, The Adrenaline covers most all the aspects! The smarty is a great option for a big charger daily driver! In reality, Unless you want just wicked spool up , its not needed!

JMO

Jazz 03-13-2008 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by mysterync (Post 131155)
Its really pointless, The Adrenaline covers most all the aspects! The smarty is a great option for a big charger daily driver! In reality, Unless you want just wicked spool up , its not needed!

JMO

Well in reality I just tried it.ADR2000 and smarty #8. As you said wicked spool-up is what I got.:igive: I have never had this turbo spool that fast in my life. reminds me of my old hy35. I'm going to back the smarty down to #2 because this isn't something that you want to drive around all the time. Wow does this thing want to take off:U: I'll report back later:pca1:

Marine 03-13-2008 09:31 AM

Where can I try one!?!?!

Woligator 03-18-2008 05:28 AM

wicked spool up,this is fine to me :)

2141pete 03-19-2008 01:05 AM

Hopefully I may get a smarty here soon. My adrenaline will hopefully be on it's way in the next few days too!!!!!

jmono33 03-28-2008 01:03 AM

That is cool but for both box's thats like $1200 :/ Are both these boxes stacked worth $1200?

Jazz 03-28-2008 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by jmono33 (Post 139438)
That is cool but for both box's thats like $1200 :/ Are both these boxes stacked worth $1200?

Well that would all be a matter of someones opinion. The Adrenaline is a great unit by itself. The Smarty they are suppose to be working on some new programs for too. Does a guy need both I would say no. Actually I can't say no,:argh: thats why I've had 3 different turbo's 4 different sets of injectors a drag comp, tst pm3, mad ecm, smarty, Adrenaline. I will say they are very fun when stacked but not something that is everyday driveable at least not for me.So are they worth $1200.00:humm: is Diesel fuel worth $4.19 a gallon. Nothing is worth what you pay anymore it's how bad you want or need it.

bigb82789 03-28-2008 05:35 PM

I still have the production tune. (can't update:argh:) I also have the smarty on 2(fule and boost fooling). it runs really good, but I havent run the updates to see if it makes the same difference.

Jazz 04-03-2008 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by bigb82789 (Post 139693)
I still have the production tune. (can't update:argh:) I also have the smarty on 2(fule and boost fooling). it runs really good, but I havent run the updates to see if it makes the same difference.

Did you ever get the loading of different tunes figured out?

jkidd 04-03-2008 03:30 PM

I cant wait for the pulse Adrenaline. I liked the smarty, but wish I could re-map the touchy throttle to be above 30%. If I had the higher power and less touchy throttle response for low end I would have a reason to put in my 180sticks instead of my 105. I just dont want to have to baby it from starts.

bigb82789 04-03-2008 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Jazz (Post 143376)
Did you ever get the loading of different tunes figured out?

Yes. I just load adr2000 4/3 and it run smoother and comes on sooner than the prodution tune. Still running the smarty stack for the bottom end. Just can't beat it for off idle response.

Jazz 04-04-2008 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by bigb82789 (Post 143696)
Yes. I just load adr2000 4/3 and it run smoother and comes on sooner than the prodution tune. Still running the smarty stack for the bottom end. Just can't beat it for off idle response.

Good to hear that you got the downloads working. Yea I have to clear some off my desktop and replace with new files. But I have a couple of tunes that I might hold onto yet. I will probably have to try the New ones before I go and throw out the old ones. Every truck runs a little different with these tunes. There are too many other factors involved. Good luck finding the right one. It takes some time but its fun:U:

cummins724 04-04-2008 08:41 AM

I stacked the 2 for a while & it worked well with the old production tunes. The new tunes up on the website yesterday are the RowJ tunes. They don't work as well, my turbo builds boost slower with the stack than Adrenaline alone. I don't think it is worth the money at all. I use my Smarty as a code reader now, performance of the Adrenaline alone is more than enough. Guys who stack the Smarty have noticed no performance gains on the dyno, but higher egts.

can17 04-04-2008 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by cummins724 (Post 143873)
Guys who stack the Smarty have noticed no performance gains on the dyno, but higher egts.

I disagree.

313/726 with Adrenaline only.
330/763 with Smarty stacked on SW #8.

cummins724 04-04-2008 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by can17 (Post 144104)
I disagree.

313/726 with Adrenaline only.
330/763 with Smarty stacked on SW #8.

I'm talking about the new tunes. The RowJ tune is way more aggressive than the old tunes, quad has the bottom end back now. He actually lost the lowend grunt for a while trying to eliminate all the shuttering problems, but it is now stronger than ever.

mysterync 04-04-2008 07:15 PM

I'd be willing to bet in high HP situations that we'll loose power with the stack! I might smack an adrenaline on my truck to see what type of results we see!

bigb82789 04-04-2008 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by cummins724 (Post 144136)
I'm talking about the new tunes. The RowJ tune is way more aggressive than the old tunes, quad has the bottom end back now. He actually lost the lowend grunt for a while trying to eliminate all the shuttering problems, but it is now stronger than ever.

I disagree. My truck has alot more bottom end with smarty on #4 and the new 4/3/08 ADR2000 tune. The new tune is really sweet, but seat of the pants the smarty is still giving more off idle fuel. Maybe its just throttle response, but it sure does feel stronger.

Jazz 04-04-2008 08:00 PM

I would have to agree that the smarty just feels stronger on the low end than just the Adrenaline alone. But like it was said, seat of the pants feel. Is it really stronger? Don't know for sure but it sure as heck feels like it. And as far as the new ROWJ tunes much better as far as my surging and better low end but load that tune and run it. Then throw a smarty on and tell me you think the Adrenaline is better by itself. I would have to disagree in my case but every truck runs different with so many other factors involved. As far as power top end no doubt the Adrenaline wins hands down

bigb82789 04-04-2008 08:49 PM

You can definetly tell when the adrenaline starts fueling.

can17 04-04-2008 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by cummins724 (Post 144136)
I'm talking about the new tunes. The RowJ tune is way more aggressive than the old tunes, quad has the bottom end back now. He actually lost the lowend grunt for a while trying to eliminate all the shuttering problems, but it is now stronger than ever.


Do you think the new tune fuels harder than the original comp beta tune? My dyno run was done with the comp tune and on my truck the new 4-3-08 tune doesn't feel as strong, but is definately super smooth. The only time i've been able to make my clutch let go is with the comp beta tune.

cummins724 04-05-2008 09:55 PM

I am saying that the Adrenaline "RowJ" tunes fuel harder off idle in my truck than previous tunes. The Smarty SW2 does make my turbo spool slower than the Adrenaline alone for some reason. My 62/71/14 has always spooled at 1300-1350rpm with my old Smarty/Drag stack & the Adrenaline alone, but add Smarty to Adrenaline & It doesn't spool till around 1400rpm. It only makes the truck smoke more & makes the throttle pedal "jumpy". This is with the RowJ tune only, production tunes work well with Smarty. I haven't put many miles on the stack, but I'll give it another try tomorrow on SW4. I'm not calling you guys a liar, just saying that my truck reacts this way. Guys who have reported dyno numbers to me have said that adding Smarty didn't raise numbers until you guys have posted.

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Originally Posted by can17 (Post 144224)
Do you think the new tune fuels harder than the original comp beta tune? My dyno run was done with the comp tune and on my truck the new 4-3-08 tune doesn't feel as strong, but is definately super smooth. The only time i've been able to make my clutch let go is with the comp beta tune.

The original comp tune was hard core, but was running my pump dry & surging. I haven't run it since my tranny blew 3rd gear.

can17 04-05-2008 09:57 PM

Gotchya :U:

bigb82789 04-06-2008 04:13 PM

Well I went to the track yesterday and the Quad smarty stack ran a 14.5, whereas the Quad alone ran a 15.0. Thats 5 tenths difference. Quad was on 10 for all runs and when the smarty was on, it was set to #4. I also backed it up with (2) 14.6's with the Quad on 10 and Smarty on #4.


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