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Gunmetal 01-23-2012 05:08 PM

Number 10 fuel plate
 
How much HP and torque increase?

RivalRacing 01-23-2012 05:56 PM

Depends on what else is done. If you're stock, it isnt a lot, BUT - it does add to the driveability of the truck. I found the stock 160hp just about unbearable in my 96...

tpcdrafting 01-23-2012 06:26 PM

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Here is the power rating chart from TST who was one of the early pioneers of selling the plates:

gwhammy 01-24-2012 06:47 AM

Save your money and grind your own. Rework your afc while you have it out and then tune the afc to control the fuel. Total payout 0 Real nice performance gain for zero money outlay.

Gunmetal 01-25-2012 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by tpcdrafting (Post 847954)
Here is the power rating chart from TST who was one of the early pioneers of selling the plates:

Thanks. I've seen the chart, was just wondering if anyone has put theirs on a dyno.
Mine is a '96, so it sprays a bit more fuel (as the chart also indicates).
96-98 had most HP potential with stock injectors.


Originally Posted by gwhammy (Post 848229)
Save your money and grind your own. Rework your afc while you have it out and then tune the afc to control the fuel. Total payout 0 Real nice performance gain for zero money outlay.

Bought a #10 plate for $27 including the new fitting to precisely control the amount of boost.
I can be pretty redneck, but grinding a fuel plate myself would NOT equal precise fueling unless I got it EXACT. Then you'd have to have a plate to compare it to in person.. hard to grind one from a drawing online.
Good thing is you can buy one for 27 bucks on ebay, it's not CNC'd billet but it will work just the same. My deal is I want good power and limited smoke. Smoke is wasted fuel.

gwhammy 01-25-2012 04:12 PM

Each to his own, they have gotten alot cheaper over the years. I ran a 100 plate took it out the other day when I was having boost problems just to cross that out as a problem. Fueling didn't change, the afc or rack plug stops it before it gets to the plate. I am going to put it back in but I have worked the afc over and have it working pretty good to control fuel.

Gunmetal 01-25-2012 05:21 PM

Make sure the diaphragm doesn't have a tear in it.
The fuel plates by BD are still about 220 bucks.. way too rich for my blood.
A 27 dollar (shipped) cast plate will last the life of the truck, and you get the exact fueling profile you desire.

I chose #10 (330 HP / 750 TQ) because I want to maintain fuel economy even if I'm heavier on the pedal. The other plates over-fuel and blow black smoke... that's wasted diesel.
Only time you should have a puff of smoke is when you're starting from a stop, just to build a quick hit of boost.

It also includes the fitting for the AFC housing that controls the boost limit before the waste gate kicks in. Also known as a "boost elbow" except this is a straight fitting.
You can't tell from the pic but it has a TINY hole in the center of the fitting, just enough to let a tiny amount of air through which allows increased boost. Safer than simply clamping off the wastegate line on the turbo, which can be dangerous.
5.9L Dodge Cummins Diesel Fuel Torque Plate #10 10 | eBay
That's the one I bought.
Looks like it's machined from 6061 cast aluminum

But if I could do it over again I MIGHT buy this one, which is machined from cast steel and then heat treated. Might be imported though?? Sellers name says importsomething?
DODGE CUMMINS DIESEL FUEL TORQUE PLATE SOLID #10 # 10 | eBay

Either way you are looking at 28 bucks.
Aluminum or steel.. your pick.
I went with the aluminum because it says it is Made in USA.
The Chinese get enough of our money.

turbo2332 01-27-2012 09:17 PM

i personally think these fuel plate HP #'s are BULLSHIT!!!!! put it in and tell us what you get. i bet you will be as sad as i was when all my truck had in it was a modded fuel plate. i believe these #'s they come up with are on a big nasty truck. your NOT gonna get 70 some HP and 300 and some LBS of TQ! it aint happinin. they are nice pieces to tune with but not rate HP and TQ with. in my opinion

Gunmetal 01-28-2012 05:36 AM

I can tell you from what I experienced they are not BS.
My truck will burn clutch if I get on the throttle too quickly.
Fuel plates definitely work... I suggest you get the one that best works with your setup.

Even with 307k miles on my truck, it went from under powered WELL OVER 100HP gain.
Acceleration is very quick, I need install new governor springs so it will fuel longer.

The plates work, trust me.

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Originally Posted by turbo2332 (Post 850009)
i believe these #'s they come up with are on a big nasty truck. your NOT gonna get 70 some HP and 300 and some LBS of TQ! it aint happinin. they are nice pieces to tune with but not rate HP and TQ with. in my opinion

They are dyno tested on 5.9L cummins... same as what is in your truck.
The numbers are NOT from a big rig.

Some plates add so much power it will burn up your clutch if you mash the pedal.
Lose the denial and get a plate. :rocking:

turbo2332 01-28-2012 08:18 AM

they are still bogus uggg... a fuel plate isnt gonna take a 160hp pump to 260hp its just not gonna happin believe the hype if you want but it just wont.
does it add some power yes.
will it allow for more power in the future yes
is it a good upgrade yes

but some gov springs in it after you play with your heart ache fuel plate for a few days and let us know what made the big difference? because i a fuel plate is worth 100hp than 4k gov springs are easily worth 250hp so you should be in the 500hp range! (BS)

HP #'s are bogus just like a set of injectors that say they are 140HP or whatever on a stock truck you might get 50 or 60 out of them maybe.

hell a turbo swap on a stock truck if you stay on the usable side MIGHT get you 50hp and 150lbs of tq! a fuel plate will help you get that 50 extra HP but not a 100 on its own.

get a fuel plate by all means its a good mod just dont get stuck on theses HP #'s

tpcdrafting 01-28-2012 11:45 AM

For what it's worth, gov springs don't add any hp. All they do is keep the truck from defueling under high rpm's. It feels like more power, but it's not. I added my springs and a 11 plate at the same time. After putting it back together the truck ran exactly the same on my 'test hill' which isn't exact science, but it is a repeatable test. Found out with some reading the rack was getting stuck under my plate so I had to do the gov. arm adjustment. Suddenly truck was making 30 psi (from about 16) of boost and my test hill speeds went up about 25 mph, which is huge since it's a short hill. I never dyno tested until after the work was done but the truck made about 95 hp over stock rating on a load test dyno and about 130 hp over stock on a non-load dyno. Several years later, I ground my stock plate to a #100 and the truck would now make 40 psi boost with a noticable difference in the SOP dyno. Test hill made another 8-10 mph.

Gunmetal 01-28-2012 06:04 PM

Turbo23, study the pump..
Don't believe it if you want, you can remove the fuel plate if you want and over-fuel like all the kids do. At least I'll know mine will run correctly.

turbo2332 01-28-2012 08:00 PM

dude sorry to bash but on the other post your on guessing HP, you say he might have 260? WTF if you go by your math the guy should have 400 hell he said he already has a fuel plate that adds 100hp sooooo....... what about his other mods? why the low guess i can only stipulate because the #'s arnt in your favor. ive got these pumps pretty figured out. by far and away no expert but understand how to build efficient HP and TQ quite well. a HP guess is all it is a guess. the more stock the engine the less ponies your gonna pump out with the same mods a 1000 hp rig can. a 250 shot a funny gas isnt gonna give you 250hp on a stock truck but on a 600hp if very well could. EVERYTHING is a variable with HP and TQ and with a mild built engine your on the low side of everything.
its HYPE to get you to buy their product

-not trying to make any bad blood, trying to help like everyone else-

Gunmetal 01-28-2012 08:39 PM

First of all trying to guess your horsepower is silly, so if you're going to guess you should be conservative.
Second, I didn't see him specify his year and transmission.
If he has a 1994 automatic how much power do you think it puts to the ground?

The rated engine power and what it puts to the ground are very much different.. grasshoppa ;)

So, my estimate of 260-275HP may actually be right on, we won't know unless he runs it on a dyno. 300+ at the crank may only be 260-270 at the wheels.

twinturbogarrett 04-02-2013 06:21 PM

these fuel plates work on any stock truck and gain a great deal of power. you are only looking at the potential amount of power the plate can make with what pump it is what tranny it is what barrels and plungers and delivery valves and injectors and gov. springs. so with that said if a #10 plate says it will make so much hp it has the potential to do so. i have twins 140hp injectors full cuts 5k gov spring #0 plate and 0.93 oversized lines with a ported and polished head and 60lb springs thats fire ringed when i had a #100 plate in it with this setup i didnt see but 500hp a went to the #0 plate i gained gained= less smoke 70rwhp and it will hit a good lick at adle.

4btyjjeep 08-31-2013 10:53 AM

I put a #10 in my. It made a big difference. my stock clutch wouldn't hold it. It cost my 1200 for a new clutch


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