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12vcumminspower 10-16-2010 01:18 AM

whats the easiest and cheapest way to make power with a 12v
 
i am buying a 12v 1996 stick shift with 200k on it i don't need tons of power just a lttle extra and some black smoke any ideas, and could you rate the mechanical ability with it if its easy kinda hard, hard??

blazier18 10-16-2010 03:28 AM

goin cheap aint cheap man. air intake 4 inch straight pipe. pyro/boost gauge. then the afc

Rustin 10-16-2010 04:43 AM

Intake systems are not hard to install. some are fairly inexpensive. But not cheap. Ehaust systems are not hard to install. Same with guages. If you can wrench, you can do it! The only thing you might have to have a shop do is turn your fuel pump up! That pump is complicated enuff so don't go pulling on that thing. It all depends on what you want to do?
Like how much Power do you want? What type of abuse do you want to subject it to? As far as Black Smoke It is cool and fun, can lower your EGTs (Exhaust Gas Temperatures) in a race aplication but, it looks bad on us as diesel enthusiasts. It also shows a lack of efficiency. keep asking questions! Where you from?
Where you from?

Dude_57 10-16-2010 07:10 AM

Turn your starwheel some too! It's definately easy! :tu:

12vpwr 10-16-2010 08:41 AM

turning the starwheel aint always a good thing. just don't crank it all the way foward. it can stretch that spring and the truck can develope a miss.

v8440 10-16-2010 09:30 AM

You certainly can get some extra power by messing with the pump, and it isn't complicated. Do a search on sliding the plate forward in the pump. That and the starwheel are the two places to start. You can probably get away without gauges if you just slide the stock plate forward some. Any more than that and you'll need a EGT and boost gauge. Those are good gauges to have even stock, but strictly speaking you're not likely to hurt anything by just sliding the stock plate forward and cranking on the starwheel some.

One other thing you should do, REGARDLESS of power, is put a bhaf on it. It's a large air filter that's intended for some other application but fits on our trucks. It flows a TON of air, and because it's a paper filter it doesn't sacrifice filtering the smallest particles like some aftermarket reusable ones do. You can get them from napa, but at least around here, napa will rape you to the tune of like $85. I recommend you buy it at a place that services heavy equipment or big trucks. Many different filter manufacturers make that filter, not just napa. Donaldson is the one I use, and it costs me about $35 where I get it.

ztk7220 10-17-2010 12:12 PM

guages, take fuel plate out, put hose clamp on rubber waste gate hose, then you clutch will slip, so a new clutch is next

85_305 10-17-2010 12:43 PM

Clamping off the wg hose is NOT a good idea. Just buy a fuel plate/boost elbow combo on ebay for like $30 and dont mess with crimping off the wg.

12vcumminspower 10-24-2010 05:04 AM

what does bhaf stand for???

ozzking93 10-24-2010 07:26 AM

big honkin airfilter

85_305 10-24-2010 08:47 AM

This
http://dodgetrucks.org/photopost/dat...talled-med.jpg

BAD ASS RAM 10-24-2010 10:10 AM

Just make sure you get some good gauges!!!

bowtech 10-24-2010 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by 12vpwr (Post 637227)
turning the starwheel aint always a good thing. just don't crank it all the way foward. it can stretch that spring and the truck can develope a miss.

i never heard that before so can you fix it by turning it back?

12vcumminspower 10-24-2010 06:12 PM

Where is the search engine on here so I can type in bhaf to find that part number

85_305 10-24-2010 10:42 PM

from Wix & Napa Filters & Accessories: FleetFilter Secure Online Store. Part number 42790.

12vcumminspower 10-25-2010 01:14 PM

TakeI have a problem the truck takes forever to warm up like im in ca in isnt very cold here I can drive for like an hour amd I will barley see 150 on my temp gauge

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I live in ca its not very cold here but my trick takes forever and a dau to.warm up could the thermostat ber stuck open

94 12valve 10-25-2010 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by 12vpwr (Post 637227)
turning the starwheel aint always a good thing. just don't crank it all the way foward. it can stretch that spring and the truck can develope a miss.

What? There is no way that spring will cause a miss

85_305 10-25-2010 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by 12vcumminspower (Post 641822)
TakeI have a problem the truck takes forever to warm up like im in ca in isnt very cold here I can drive for like an hour amd I will barley see 150 on my temp gauge

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I live in ca its not very cold here but my trick takes forever and a dau to.warm up could the thermostat ber stuck open


Dude me and a half dozen other people have told you a dozen times or so now.. diesels take forever to warm up! They have a cooling system adequate enough to cool down itself AND a friggen tractor trailer. It's normal. Deal with it. This isn't a cadillac or honda civic designed for comfort, it'd designed for work.

12vcumminspower 10-26-2010 05:50 PM

Dude I'm just making sure everything is ok with it no need to get mad I owned a 6.9 before and never had this problem so im just making sure. And is as bahf really worth the 85dollers

85_305 10-26-2010 05:52 PM

Believe me the folks on this site will NOT lead you wrong. I cant speak for the 6.9's as the only thing I know about them is that they last forever.. but these 12v/7.3's and above have monster cooling systems.

YES the bhaf is worth it. Mileage will go way up, sound will go way up, and all you have to do to clean it is beat it against the curb or use an air comp

fumminsplease 10-26-2010 09:43 PM

wow 80 bucks? I put one on my obs powerstroke last weekend for 20 bucks and it was a napa air filter too:humm:

JBradley500 10-26-2010 09:52 PM

you can get an amosil filter for that much money... and thats why i got one. the bhaf was a good option when they were 40 bucks but they arent anymore.

12vcumminspower 10-27-2010 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by fumminsplease (Post 642872)
wow 80 bucks? I put one on my obs powerstroke last weekend for 20 bucks and it was a napa air filter too:humm:

pictures??? and part number


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